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Occupation - Collarmaker
« on: Sunday 01 December 19 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know what a Collarmaker would have done in 1746?

I have always assumed it was leather work for horse collars etc, but in 1746 I have a "Thomas Tylsey the Younger, Clothier" in a court case, and the only candidate in the town at the time had served an apprenticeship with a Collarmaker.

So I'm wondering if making shirt collars was a thing at that time? My candidate's father was a Tailor, which would seem to fit quite well.

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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 December 19 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Shirt collars used to be separate from the shirts, held in place by collar studs.

I presume he was making these?
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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 December 19 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm! Maybe not?
Detachable collars, attached with studs, were apparently invented in 1827 ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detachable_collar
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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 December 19 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Ah, maybe not then! I don't really know where to look - I've seen people mentioning that people calling themselves Collarmakers then turn up calling themselves Saddlers at other times, which makes it obvious, but I'm very short of wills in this family, and it's too early for father's occupations on christening records.

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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 December 19 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Shirt collars used to be separate from the shirts, held in place by collar studs.

Indeed they did, but those seem more Edwardian to me than 18th C.  Before that, collars could be very ornate, so I would guess something more on those lines? Lace, for instance.
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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 December 19 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Ah, now lace is something I hadn't thought of at all, so that could be it. But I think I would expect the word lace to appear in the occupation, and besides, wasn't lacemaking generally women's work?

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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 December 19 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Someone else seeking the same info. in 2008 but nothing concrete answered;

https://www.british-genealogy.com/forum/threads/34406-Collar-Maker

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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 December 19 01:00 GMT (UK) »
Thank you! I'm completely out of ideas where else to look...

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Re: Occupation - Collarmaker
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 December 19 01:42 GMT (UK) »
There's not many illustrations for that specific year.  However, the man's pleated ruff was worn well before and well after that year.   So too was the clerical "dog collar".

There's a fine figure of a man in this "falling" fold collar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700%E2%80%931750_in_Western_fashion#/media/File:Georg_Friedrich_H%C3%A4ndel.jpg
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