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Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« on: Friday 06 December 19 18:37 GMT (UK) »
I'm in correspondence with someone on Ancestry in regards to a Mary Ann Roberts in my Tree.I have her listed in my Tree as born in Oswestry in c 1885.She married my relative Watkin T Davies at Oswestry in 1908.The person writing to me has purchased their Marriage Certificate which shows her Father to be a John Roberts a Plasterer.I am struggling to find her with those details in the Census before she was married?In the 1939 Register her Birth is given as 19/06/1884.

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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 December 19 18:45 GMT (UK) »
If the 1939 details are correct, this would be her birth
Mary Ann Roberts  mmn Evans
GRO Reference: 1884  S Quarter in OSWESTRY  Volume 06A  Page 699

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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 December 19 18:50 GMT (UK) »
In 1891 there is a Mary Ann Roberts age 6 from Oswestry with a father John who is a painter.  Looks likely.

The same household in 1901, has her mother as a widow, and elder brother, also a John, as a painter.

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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 December 19 18:51 GMT (UK) »
At.

 RG12
Piece number   2117
Folio   41
Page   26

Is a family where the father is John, a Painter.   Allied occupation.

Sorry Chempat.


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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 December 19 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your replies.I will ask the lady on Ancestry whether she has possibly misread the Occupation of John her father.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 December 19 19:09 GMT (UK) »
I don’t think she need have misread.
People even now are often painters and plasterers.   
Perhaps doing more of one thing than another at different times.


Added, following that family,   John died before the 1901.
Wife Sarah still alive 1901 & 1911.
2 sons with her both single
Mary Ann is with her 1901 but not 1911 which is circumstantial support if yours married in 1908.

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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 December 19 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks.There is Marriage that would fit with all the other info on UKBMD at Oswestry St Oswald's in 1869 of a John Roberts and a Sarah J Evans.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 December 19 20:26 GMT (UK) »
baptism 3 Jan 1886 at Holy Trinity, Oswestry for Mary Anne Roberts, dau of John, painter, & Sarah of Crown Yard.

Marriage 18 Feb 1869 in the parish church of Oswestry for
John Roberts 27 bach plasterer Oswestry father Evan Roberts pumpsinker
Sarah Jane Evans 26 spinster Oswestry father Edward Evans butcher
witnesses Joseph Laurence & Mary Ann Roberts, all signed.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mary Ann Roberts-Oswestry
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 December 19 01:33 GMT (UK) »
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFT4-NZC

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27J-1ZY5

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W9DR-BMM

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQH-SVS

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X726-XZS


1861:There is a John with a father Evan, but Evan is a Railway Porter:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7YP-L37

Roberts births:

ROBERTS, JOHN mmn VAUGHAN 
GRO Reference: 1842  J Quarter in OSWESTRY  Volume 18  Page 161

ROBERTS, SARAH mmn VAUGHAN 
GRO Reference: 1847  J Quarter in OF OSWESTRY  Volume 18  Page 151

ROBERTS, HARRIET mmn VAUGHAN 
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in OSWESTRY  Volume 18  Page 155

ROBERTS, EDWARD mmn VAUGHAN 
GRO Reference: 1853  J Quarter in OSWESTRY  Volume 06A  Page 624


1861: I see only one suitable for Sarah: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7RZ-LLP

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