John Joseph Ikin, Winsford; Marriage and Probate

[Talacharn]

Death: John Joseph Ikin
Apr-Jun 1980 . Vale Royal, Cheshire
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1910
Vale Royal . Volume: 35 . Page: 0908 . Line Number: 59

Looking at other Probates, around this time, who benefitted is not recorded as it was in previous generations. All Probate says is:
Ikin, John Joseph otherwise Joseph of 4 Elm Gro Winsford Cheshire died 21 May 1980 Probate 4 August £31131 803102237Q

I am aware John Joseph Ikin married late in life, mid to late 1970s. My family did not like her as she had married others shortly before they died, therefore referred to as the Black Widow. On Family Search, I can find some marriages around that time but not his marriage. Is there any way of finding who he married and what happened following Probate? I think her name was Connie; and assume Probate settled in her favour.

[Milliepede]

Did he definitely marry this lady?  How many husbands did she have?

[BumbleB]

There is a marriage in 1974 in Vale Royal District but it was between John W Ikin and a lady whose forename does not match Connie.

There is no marriage entry 1970 =/- 5 years for Joseph Ikin.

[BumbleB]

There is a marriage in 1940 for John J Ikin - Northwich Registration District - but the spouse's forename doesn't indicate Connie.  And one in Crewe Registration District in 1950, but again the forename doesn't correspond.

Joseph Ikin - you have 1920, 1935 or 1939 in Northwich Registration District - no indication of Connie.

You may have to purchase his Will to obtain the answer.

[Talacharn]

Thanks for your responses. Those offered I had found, that is why I asked.
He had never married and with no children.
I am sure he married Connie, who I believe had married at least a couple of times before him.
I am not that experienced with Wills and Probate.
If he did not marry Connie, I thought Probate would divide the money between the remaining family; and that did not happen. That is why my family took against her.
I was of the understanding that Probate only happened when there was no Will.
It is not that important for me to buy the Will if one exists.
The interest is only to fill a gap in my family tree.
Although he lived in Vale Royal, they may not have married there. Connie was regarded as a local, but I do not know where she lived before the marriage.
There should be a marriage certificate, but not until I can find where it took place.

[BumbleB]

Sorry, probate happened if there WAS a will.  If there wasn't a will then "Administration" might/would prevail.

 

[heatherjulie]

"Looking at other Probates, around this time, who benefitted is not recorded as it was in previous generations."

The person granted probate is not necessarily a person who benefits from the estate. They are the person who is responsible for making sure that the estate is divided according to the will. It could be a solicitor, family friend or anybody.

You could buy a copy of the deed of probate and a copy of the will should be attached.
 

[rosie99]

In case you are not aware the cost of wills from the probate office recently went down to £1.50, it may be worth getting it 

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

[chempat]

There is this death, if relevant:

Catherine Constance W Ikin died age 86 in March quarter 1997, Shrewsbury, born 29th October 1910.

 Name from will is Constance Catherine Whitsett Ikin.

Added:
There is a Constance C W O'Neill with that birth date on 1939.

Cannot see a birth for her - possibly Irish?

Wonder if this is her:
   
Catherine Constance O'Neill
born Jan - Mar 1911 in Dundalk, Ireland

Pity, she married Edward H Ikin in 1940.