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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 08:15 GMT (UK) »
George Joseph Da Costa . Of.6 New North Road burial 1915

Thomas Edward Lee of 6 New North Road marriage  in 1923

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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 08:50 GMT (UK) »
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No Death records for Henry Morris found to fit with Births of sons and the marriage of Margaret Hannah to John DECOSTA

Quite a gap between the two Morris births. is it possible the second son was not a son of Henry’s and the 1881 death at Bethnal Green (where Henry and Margaret married) is him?

Deaths Dec 1881   (>99%)
Morris    Henry    25    Bethnal Green    1c   190

I think this is the 25 Oct 1881 burial and Henry is of Summerford  street.
Margaret Hannah Carey gave her address as 30 Summerford street at their marriage

Added, there were 11 burials that day!

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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 13:52 GMT (UK) »
I've found Sarah Carey in the 1901 census living at 6, New North Road, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex

Registration district   Shoreditch
Archive reference   RG13
Piece number   275
Folio   53
Page   31

George Cary also living at the same address with wife and children

Registration district   Shoreditch
Archive reference   RG13
Piece number   275
Folio   53
Page   31

Thank you, I had already found this census and got lots of info on George's family. 

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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 13:55 GMT (UK) »
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No Death records for Henry Morris found to fit with Births of sons and the marriage of Margaret Hannah to John DECOSTA

Quite a gap between the two Morris births. is it possible the second son was not a son of Henry’s and the 1881 death at Bethnal Green (where Henry and Margaret married) is him?

Deaths Dec 1881   (>99%)
Morris    Henry    25    Bethnal Green    1c   190

I think this is the 25 Oct 1881 burial and Henry is of Summerford  street.
Margaret Hannah Carey gave her address as 30 Summerford street at their marriage

Added, there were 11 burials that day!

Henry Morris snr was a SEAMAN, so if he died it could have been anywhere. But the summerford street looks promising. 


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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 14:08 GMT (UK) »
who is the earliest De Costa you have and where was he born ??   in Liverpool the DeCosta family were here from 1800
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Marriage: 10 Mar 1817 St Anne Richmond, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Joseph De Costa - (X), Mariner, of this Parish
Elizabeth Profame - Widow, of this Parish
    Witness: Mary Hughes, (X); Thos. Holden
    Married by Banns by: Wm. Blundell Minr.
...if you post your earliest Decosta - I will see if I can find a connection to the Liverpool Decosta - they did become Merchants as well as Mariners
one record for instance
Groom's Father: Augusto Eduardo Da Costa, Merchant

I somehow feel there is a connection to your Decosta re the Merchants job titles ..
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more Decostas than I thought in Liverpool

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?surname=decosta&any_place=liverpool&record_country=England&record_subcountry=England%2CLancashire&count=20
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 14:10 GMT (UK) »
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No Death records for Henry Morris found to fit with Births of sons and the marriage of Margaret Hannah to John DECOSTA

Quite a gap between the two Morris births. is it possible the second son was not a son of Henry’s and the 1881 death at Bethnal Green (where Henry and Margaret married) is him?

Deaths Dec 1881   (>99%)
Morris    Henry    25    Bethnal Green    1c   190

I think this is the 25 Oct 1881 burial and Henry is of Summerford  street.
Margaret Hannah Carey gave her address as 30 Summerford street at their marriage

Added, there were 11 burials that day!

Henry Morris snr was a SEAMAN, so if he died it could have been anywhere. But the summerford street looks promising.

I have just had a look at John William Morris 1885 birth certificate and dad is Henry Morris SEAMAN ???

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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 14:27 GMT (UK) »
George Joseph Da Costa . Of.6 New North Road burial 1915

Thomas Edward Lee of 6 New North Road marriage  in 1923
I nearly missed your message,
Thank you, this is worth looking into !

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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 14:31 GMT (UK) »
who is the earliest De Costa you have and where was he born ??   in Liverpool the DeCosta family were here from 1800
eg
Marriage: 10 Mar 1817 St Anne Richmond, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Joseph De Costa - (X), Mariner, of this Parish
Elizabeth Profame - Widow, of this Parish
    Witness: Mary Hughes, (X); Thos. Holden
    Married by Banns by: Wm. Blundell Minr.
...if you post your earliest Decosta - I will see if I can find a connection to the Liverpool Decosta - they did become Merchants as well as Mariners
one record for instance
Groom's Father: Augusto Eduardo Da Costa, Merchant

I somehow feel there is a connection to your Decosta re the Merchants job titles ..
added

more Decostas than I thought in Liverpool

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?surname=decosta&any_place=liverpool&record_country=England&record_subcountry=England%2CLancashire&count=20

I haven't researched back further because I didn't know what path to take all I have is the marriage:

married a John COSTA 'cigar bundler'
Marriage: https://imgur.com/J05sLiE


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Re: DECOSTA did they change their surname? STILL LOOKING FOR HELP!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 15:14 GMT (UK) »
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No Death records for Henry Morris found to fit with Births of sons and the marriage of Margaret Hannah to John DECOSTA

Quite a gap between the two Morris births. is it possible the second son was not a son of Henry’s and the 1881 death at Bethnal Green (where Henry and Margaret married) is him?

Deaths Dec 1881   (>99%)
Morris    Henry    25    Bethnal Green    1c   190

I think this is the 25 Oct 1881 burial and Henry is of Summerford  street.
Margaret Hannah Carey gave her address as 30 Summerford street at their marriage

Added, there were 11 burials that day!

Henry Morris snr was a SEAMAN, so if he died it could have been anywhere. But the summerford street looks promising.

I have just had a look at John William Morris 1885 birth certificate and dad is Henry Morris SEAMAN ???
If this is the correct death cert my line has gone dead, not knowing who the father is!