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Re: 48th reg.1803-1823,James Schofield
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 August 05 03:54 BST (UK) »
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Re: 48th reg.1803-1823,James Schofield
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 August 05 08:13 BST (UK) »
G'Day Annie..the above site I added James Schofield's name to it...this is what I know.I started with the birth of James's daughter Jane Ann Schofield born 1820 Sydney.  James arrived with the 48th reg. with his wife Mary...records showed they both arr.1817 'Lloyds'.Then he was in trouble and was sentenced to life..but because of mitigating  circumstances, rec.7yrs. colonial sentence, whilst on duty in the prison barracks(still serving his 7 yrs.)he let 5 prisioners escape and was sent to Port Macquarie.  Mary, his wife wrote to the governor and said she was starving and could she be put on stores....he answered no...and she died 12-1-1826.James, still a prisioner wrote to the Governor in 1826 and asked could his two daughters go to the orphan school.  In this letter he said he had been a soldier for 18 yrs, 10years a non commissioned officer, the pay clerk for the reg.  I am not sure if he had left the army when he rec. his colonial sentence.His cert.of freedom, issued 2-9-1828 showed he was born 0ldham 1783. I am sure he did not leave Aust. and I think he died 1845 Kelso, as a settler.  I am trying to find his parents, and the marriage to Mary...if possible.... that is why I am trying to find his military records. Bit of a sad story...Mary was only 30 when she died, and if James had stayed out of trouble they might have lived happily ever after.  I really appreciate you taking the time to help....hope you enjoyed the story....Rob

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Re: 48th reg.1803-1823,James Schofield
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 28 August 05 01:22 BST (UK) »


That's a sad story Sunshine! - what awful lives they lived - don't think it was the "good old days" for them....!! ::)

I asked my friend in Australia if she could help find some information for you! - most of this information I think you already have - It is from the Colonial Secretary Records - NSW State Records.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/

SCHOFIELD, James. Came free per "Lloyds" as a soldier
 
1823 Feb 15-1824 Dec 11
 On pay lists of constables employed at Sydney (Reel 6029; 4/7016A pp.67-216, 4/7016B pp.59-208 & 4/7016C pp.17-363)
 
1824 May 29, Jun 5-26, Jul 10-24
 On lists of constables doing duty at the Hyde Park Prisoners' Barracks who are entitled to a weekly ration (Reel 6061; 4/1779 pp.102, 121, 141, 156, 165 & 4/1780 pp.192, 209, 224)
 
1824 Dec 10
 Committed for trial for letting five prisoners escape from the Watchhouse where he was on duty. On return of fines and punishments in the Police Office (Reel 6023; 4/6671 p.103)
 
1825 Mar 29
 On list of convicts transported to Port Macquarie per "Sally" (Reel 6019; 4/3864 pp.508-9)
 
1825 Apr 13
 Prisoner at Port Macquarie. Petition of his wife Mary to be allowed to go on Government Stores; as Scowfield (Reel 6069; 4/1817 p.76)
 

SCHOFIELD, Mary. Came free per "Lloyds"; wife of James Schofield
 
1823 Feb
 Of Clarence Street. On list of persons receiving an assigned convict (Fiche 3290; 4/4570D p.81)
 
1825 Apr 13
 Her husband James a prisoner at Port Macquarie. Petition to be put on Government Stores; recommended that she go to Port Macquarie. As Scowfield (Reel 6069; 4/1817 p.76)

You can order a copy of the detail of these entries. Alternatively they may be available at the State library

This is the index record for the birth of Jane Ann
V18194815 1B/1819  SCHOFIELD  JANE  JAMES  MARY   - appears to be 1819, not 1820.
from http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

This could be a second marriage
V18284413 3B/1828  SCHOFIELD  JAMES  ANGIS OR ANGUS  JANNET  CH   - The code Ch is the C of E Church at Hexham - which is south of Port Macquarie.

I don't know where you would  go for this record but it could provide information

http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/census.html

General Muster, plus Land and Stock Muster, September 1822
The muster took place on different days, according to sex and whether free, convict or ex-convict, under the supervision of magistrates. District Constables were asked to visit every house and farm as a check on accuracy.

Interestingly, the ship he arrived on is not given in the list of convict ships for the given date (on the above site). It seems weird that a regiment would arrive without prisoners?

If we can find anymore between us - I'll let you know OK?

Annie  ::)
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Re: 48th reg.1803-1823,James Schofield
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 28 August 05 07:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie, yes, I did have all that and much more...that was not my James 2nd marriage, that was another couple.   The ship 'Lloyds' together with about 4 others brought out the 48th regiment, probably a few 100 army men.He is not listed on a convict ship, because he arrived as a soldier, and later committed a colonial offence, so he was different from the other convicts from England. I have checked a pay slip of his from 1817, which showed he had been in the army over 14years at that stage.  On the list is some other names of soldiers in the 48th reg. and I am about to check them out on the WO97 ref. you gave me, to see if they are listed.I will let you know how I get on.   Do you have a soldier? did you get his records? I appreciate your time and effort...Rob