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John Goodacre Marshall
« on: Wednesday 11 December 19 15:00 GMT (UK) »
My GG grandfather was Thomas Whittle Marshall born 1853 in Loughborough. I'm trying to trace my GGG grandfather (and beyond) who I believe was John Goodacre Marshall born 1819 in Wymeswold.

I have found census records showing
1851 John G Marshall Head Age 32          3 Meadow Lane Loughboro’
         Harriet (?)        Wife        24
         William James   Son         3 mths

1861  John Marshall    Head        42            Meadow Lane Loughboro’
         Elizabeth (?)      Wife         41
   William James   Son         10
   Thomas Whittle   Son         8
         Harriet Hannah   Dau         6
         Mary Ann      Dau          1

1871  John G Marshall  Head       52           Loughborough Town Hall Keeper
         Elizabeth            Wife        51
         Annie G              Dau        14           
         Mary Ann            Dau        11

I Can’t find the maiden names of Harriet or Elizabeth and why FreeBMD records show 2 marriages for John Goodacre Marshall both in Loughborough in 1848 and 1850. Any help would be appreciated.
Marshall, Whittle, Goodacre

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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 15:47 GMT (UK) »
GRO site https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp  (need to have a free account to search)

Will give MMN prior to 1911
1851 Q1 William James Marshall, Loughborough, MMN Hallam
1853 Q1 Thomas Whittle Marshall, Loughborough, MMN Hallam
1859 Q4 Mary Ann Marshall, Loughborough, MMN Hallam
The 1850 marriage in Free BMD has a Harriet Hallam on the same page so that looks likely to be the marriage record you are after?

The same site also does a deaths search which gives ages at death for the years that the old index didn't record:

1860 Q1 Harriet Marshall , Loughborough, age 34

There's also a marriage on Free BMD Q4 1860 for a John "Goodwere" Marshall and an Elizabeth Stevenson (I looked at the image the entry was transcribed from and though its dire and difficult to make out I do think it may say Goodacre)

Neither of the above marriages are turning up in Leicestershire Parish Registers either on FS or FindMyPast so I suspect they were either at a Registrar's Office or possibly were Non Conformist of some flavour.
The Annie G daughter in 1871 aged 14 leads me to suspect that Elizabeth was a widow when they married so Stevenson may not have been her maiden name - tracking her back in the census returns may find out more but I have run out of time :-)

EDIT oh! and Welcome to Rootschat!

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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 16:01 GMT (UK) »
I now find I have a little more time as my visitor has said she's running late :-)

In 1851 John's occupation is post messenger
The 1848 marriage is

Parish Church of Loughborough
1st May, by banns
John Goodacre Marshall, full age,Bachelor,  occ: postman residence Meadow Lane, father William Marshall Book-keeper

Mary Lawrence, full age. Spinster, residence Sparrow Hill,  father James Lawrence Cordwainer
Both signed the register

witnesses
Isaac  {??}  signed (but surname difficult to read)
Ann Lawrence  marks X
John Twells signed

and there is a 'possible' death register entry
1849 Q2 Mary Marshall Loughborough, age 25

So if the second marriage shows he was a widower that could confirm the theory - looks like he had a taste for wedding cake!

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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 19:43 GMT (UK) »
And a warm welcome to Rootschat from me

The Annie G daughter in 1871 aged 14 leads me to suspect that Elizabeth was a widow when they married so Stevenson may not have been her maiden name - tracking her back in the census returns may find out more but I have run out of time :-)

GRO has birth:
Jun qtr 1857 Loughborough vol 7a p113 MARSHALL Ann Gertrude, mmn HALLAM.

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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Following up the information found by ticketyboo on John Goodacre MARSHALL with father named as William, there is a possible marriage on FamilySearch:

Marriage 11 May 1817 Wimeswold, Leicestershire - William MARSHALL and Hannah GOODACRE.

(I haven't found John's baptism yet.)

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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 20:14 GMT (UK) »
There are many refs for John Goodacre MARSHALL on the Brit Newspapers FMPast.

All free snippets seem to suggest that he WAS married 3 times.

Maureen

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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 21:00 GMT (UK) »
And a warm welcome to Rootschat from me


GRO has birth:
Jun qtr 1857 Loughborough vol 7a p113 MARSHALL Ann Gertrude, mmn HALLAM.

Philip

Good find Philip, just shows that we all miss something when we are trying to do something in a hurry :-)
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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 December 19 21:03 GMT (UK) »
There are many refs for John Goodacre MARSHALL on the Brit Newspapers FMPast.

All free snippets seem to suggest that he WAS married 3 times.

Maureen



So there are Maureen! Good that it looks like the 'possible' scenario really is plausible :-)
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Re: John Goodacre Marshall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 December 19 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Marriage at Wimeswold - 11 May 1817 - by Banns, with the consent of friends (seems to be the norm in this parish register).

Both parties said to be from Wimeswold, and they signed.  Witnesses:  Samuel and Elizabeth Goodacre.
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