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6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« on: Friday 13 December 19 07:43 GMT (UK) »
I came across this child in 1871 census

Staying at the Mill House Treforth parish of Betwas with Robert and * Ellen Davies and their children aged 14 .4 and 1

First time I've seen "stranger" in the relation column
She was a nursed child. Born Merionethshire Corwen.
I wonder who she was related to and what became of her.
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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 December 19 07:57 GMT (UK) »
Robert the miller  died in 1786 his eldest son became a blacksmith and Robert,s widow  Ellen.  was a charwoman in 1881

I don't know who took over the Mill House.
This family is not directly related to me but I followed them when looking for connections to my Jones great grandfather who was taken in ( by relatives )for much of his life .

I know children are hard to find on censuses if separated from their family.
Hopefully this will be useful to someone who has lost a Mary Ellen (Ellin)JONES b ABT 1865
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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 December 19 09:17 GMT (UK) »
FreeREG has Corwen Baptisms, but no Mary Ellen/Ellin c 1865

There is a MARGARET ELLEN Jones Bapt 03 Jul 1864, St Mael and St Sulien, Corwen
Mother WINIFRED Jones
Abode Union House

Maybe her?

Trish :)
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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 December 19 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Sorry maybe not her in 1871 there is a Margaret E Jones age 6 in the Corwen Workhouse
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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 December 19 09:47 GMT (UK) »
If the mother died I wonder if  a father was paying for her upkeep.
With a surname of Jones it would be hard to search for her.

Good find Trish even if not the.correct one .
A nursed child is an expression I expect to see for babies rather than children
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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 December 19 12:52 GMT (UK) »
Brig I have a 12 year old nurse child in my family.

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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 December 19 19:41 GMT (UK) »
That's interesting a l
My grandma was listed as bozrder as a baby 1901 and as " adopted "in 1911 tho adoption wasn't formal then.it was same family
 
Nowadays looked after child seems to be used in preference to foster child but I don't know what a census title would be .
I wonder if terms varied from region to region .
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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 December 19 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Did the nursed child 12 stay with that family for several years. .

I fostered in the 1980's a child stayed with 6 different families between 1982- 1991 .
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Re: 6 year old "stranger" Mary Ellen Jones "
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 December 19 20:41 GMT (UK) »
That's interesting a l
My grandma was listed as bozrder as a baby 1901 and as " adopted "in 1911 tho adoption wasn't formal then.it was same family
 
Nowadays looked after child seems to be used in preference to foster child but I don't know what a census title would be .
I wonder if terms varied from region to region .
 

Brig I think my 12 year old was an illeg child from that family as there is a year difference between her and rel.of the same name.
However, I haven't checked any more info as yet.