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Bennette Gocher
« on: Wednesday 18 December 19 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi, my ancestors Nicholas Drake and Bennet(Bennette) Lukar married 1617 in Ardingly. Could Bennette Lukar be the Bennette Gocher who married William Lukar(Lucar) 1606 in Ardingly and who was of Fletching?

I‘m very interested in this family ,could Bennette Gocher have been of French ancestry , the name sounds french to me  ;)
SMITH-Worth,Cuckfield/Sussex
COOPER-Heston,Harmondsworth/Middlesex
PATTENDEN- Sussex
FULLER- Worth /Sussex
UNDERWOOD-Chertsey/Surrey
JONES- Chertsey
BRIDDIST-Chertsey
BERRYMAN-Chertsey
HOWARD-Chertsey
TAYLOR-Hilmarton/Wiltshire
MILLS-East Ilsley/Berkshire
EVANS-East Hendred/Berkshire
HITCHMAN-Wantage
GODDARD- East Hendred
SHORTLAND-Sunbury-on-Thames
DUKES-Heston
NICOLLS-Middlesex
PICKET- Wroughton/Wiltshire
BUTLER-Wroughton
LANGRIDGE -Worth/Sussex

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Re: Bennette Gocher
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 December 19 13:14 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't note that she was a widow.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DBT7-HMN

But there is a burial in Ardingly, 9 March 1616/17, of William Lukar, a poore man.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DBT7-4G1?i=90

So quite possibly.

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Re: Bennette Gocher
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 December 19 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Thank you! On her marriage is no note that she’s a widow but because of the rare name Bennette I thought its one and the same person. Are there any records of the time for baptisms ? Or Gocher burials in Sussex I’m really interested to find out where Bennettes Gochers family is from , parents and siblings ?
SMITH-Worth,Cuckfield/Sussex
COOPER-Heston,Harmondsworth/Middlesex
PATTENDEN- Sussex
FULLER- Worth /Sussex
UNDERWOOD-Chertsey/Surrey
JONES- Chertsey
BRIDDIST-Chertsey
BERRYMAN-Chertsey
HOWARD-Chertsey
TAYLOR-Hilmarton/Wiltshire
MILLS-East Ilsley/Berkshire
EVANS-East Hendred/Berkshire
HITCHMAN-Wantage
GODDARD- East Hendred
SHORTLAND-Sunbury-on-Thames
DUKES-Heston
NICOLLS-Middlesex
PICKET- Wroughton/Wiltshire
BUTLER-Wroughton
LANGRIDGE -Worth/Sussex

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Re: Bennette Gocher
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 December 19 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I agree that the name makes it very likely it is the same lady, but I haven't seen a likely baptism for her. One of the SFHG members may perhaps be able to help. We are going a long way back here though!
I'm getting that name linked with those like Goter, Goater, as well as Goacher.


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Re: Bennette Gocher
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 December 19 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Also thought of the names Goacher or Goater. Yes maybe one of SFHG members can help me , Thank you jonw65 ;)
SMITH-Worth,Cuckfield/Sussex
COOPER-Heston,Harmondsworth/Middlesex
PATTENDEN- Sussex
FULLER- Worth /Sussex
UNDERWOOD-Chertsey/Surrey
JONES- Chertsey
BRIDDIST-Chertsey
BERRYMAN-Chertsey
HOWARD-Chertsey
TAYLOR-Hilmarton/Wiltshire
MILLS-East Ilsley/Berkshire
EVANS-East Hendred/Berkshire
HITCHMAN-Wantage
GODDARD- East Hendred
SHORTLAND-Sunbury-on-Thames
DUKES-Heston
NICOLLS-Middlesex
PICKET- Wroughton/Wiltshire
BUTLER-Wroughton
LANGRIDGE -Worth/Sussex

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Re: Bennette Gocher
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 December 19 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I have gone through the SFHG databases and cannot find anything to support Bennet Goacher (under any variant of either name) being baptised or buried using that name in Sussex - the latter at least adds weight to her marrying William and then very soon after his death, marrying your ancestor. I agree with jon65 that it seems she's the same person. I've also gone through all the Benet (+ various spellings) who married in Sussex around that time (more than you'd think!) and there are none that jump out as being relevant.

(There is one baptism in Maresfield of an Elizabeth Goatcher daughter of Nycholas, 1569 - Maresfield is the next parish to Fletching so this may be significant. However, I can't find a marriage or burial for either her or her father.)

The only Gocher marriage recorded in the east of Sussex before the 19th century was hers - the rest are all central (a few) or west. Maybe her parents came from Kent - or didn't marry?

In the late 16th / early 17th centuries there weren't so many Gocher etc families in Sussex and certainly not in that part of Sussex - but, I doubt those that were necessarily came from France - there have been Goachers around since 15th century.

You could try contacting the person who is doing the GOON study https://one-name.org/name_profile/goacher/ as they might be able to give you more information.

Liz (a member of SFHG  :D )
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Re: Bennette Gocher
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 December 19 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Throw in The Oxford Dictionary of Family Names in Britain and Ireland
Goacher
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oq9/

Goacher wills proved Chichester
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924009521307&view=1up&seq=142

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Might(!) be the will of Robert the clerk, Sidlesham, 1591
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6L6Q-FXQ?i=165&cat=567239

Not good with the old writing. Sorry. Could be one of those nuncupative wills?
He did will and bequeath unto Martha(??) his wife and Thomas his son...

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Re: Bennette Gocher
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 December 19 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Sorry more my late response! I was very busy :-[


Thank you so much Liz for your help and your research. Also thank you Jonw65! ;)

Bennette Gocher baptism is hard to find but I think the records of this time are not easy to read or not existing anymore. She was born before 1600 and to find an ancestor who was born in that time is difficult and also difficult to trace
SMITH-Worth,Cuckfield/Sussex
COOPER-Heston,Harmondsworth/Middlesex
PATTENDEN- Sussex
FULLER- Worth /Sussex
UNDERWOOD-Chertsey/Surrey
JONES- Chertsey
BRIDDIST-Chertsey
BERRYMAN-Chertsey
HOWARD-Chertsey
TAYLOR-Hilmarton/Wiltshire
MILLS-East Ilsley/Berkshire
EVANS-East Hendred/Berkshire
HITCHMAN-Wantage
GODDARD- East Hendred
SHORTLAND-Sunbury-on-Thames
DUKES-Heston
NICOLLS-Middlesex
PICKET- Wroughton/Wiltshire
BUTLER-Wroughton
LANGRIDGE -Worth/Sussex