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Offline Joe Costello

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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 28 December 19 07:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all, this info is a great help.
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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 28 December 19 14:03 GMT (UK) »
Dorothy Beryl Walker was listed from 1932 to 1937 NSW Elec Roll at 29 Duke Street with her family.
So she must have been 21 by 1932. Is there a possibility she was born overseas e.g. England?

I'd assume that the following 1968 incoming passenger card is for  this lady:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=12125921&S=1599
==> i.e. born in Australia in 1910

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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 28 December 19 15:07 GMT (UK) »
A possibility -

Dorothy B WALKER birth reg Quirindi (8542/1911 ) parents: Archibald B and Catherine G.

However, looks like Archibald and Catherine (married 1905) divorced in 1924
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16110351

Modified to add:
Other children born to this couple include:
1909  Frances L M at Quirindi
1914  Archibald E at Redfern

For info.....giving full name of Catherine from 1913 ER

Archibald Walker
Marriage year   1905
Registration district   Sydney
State   New South Wales
Country   Australia
Spouse Catherine G D LACEY
Registration number   5781
Record set   New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945

1913 Electoral Place:   Muswellbrook, Upper Hunter, New South Wales, Australia
Archibald Barnabas Walker, Hairdresser
Catherine Grace Devine Walker, Market Street

Archibald Barnabas Walker
Commit or Trial Date:   1 Jun 1920. 
Court Place:   Sydney QS, New South Wales, Australia
Respondent Catherine Grace Walker
Nature of Appeal - Order Maintenance
New South Wales, Australia, Criminal Court Records, 1830-1945


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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 28 December 19 15:48 GMT (UK) »
No further information on Frank's death but on a different site - Commonwealth War Graves

Francis Charles BRYEN, 31
Death date   01 Jul 1942
Number   NGX491
Rank   Rifleman
Unit   A.I.F.
Regiment   New Guinea Volunteer Rifles
Grave reference   Panel 29.
Cemetery or Memorial   Rabaul Memorial
Burial country   Papua New Guinea
Additional information   
Son of Charles and Louise Bryen; husband of Dorothy Beryl Bryen, of Bondi, New South Wales.
   
https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead

Judith

Charles F BRYEN  Registration Year:   1910  Place:   Waverley, New South Wales, Australia
Father:   Charles L Bryen Mother:   Louisa M

Louise Stehr
Spouse Charles L Bryen
Marriage 1909 New South Wales

1933 Electoral Place:   Sutherland, Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia

Charles Leopold BRYEN, hairdresser
Louise Mary Bryen , home duties
Francis Charles Bryen
Werombi, Oxford St, Sutherland

Charles Leopold Dodd Bryen
Death 3 Dec 1960
Louise Mary Bryen
Death 8 Dec 1962
Cemetery:   Point Clare
Section Roman Catholic
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149279379

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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 29 December 19 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Some further items about Archibald WALKER:

Fined for using his shop at Everton Rd, Strathfield as a place for betting in 1928
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article115412564
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16480356
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article122814129




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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #32 on: Monday 30 December 19 00:26 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast has a ‘Genealogical Index to Australians and Other Expatriates in Papua New Guinea Image’   There are many pages with two columns on each page,  indexed by surname.
At page 487, part way down the first column I read :

Bryen, Francis Charles, 155
Louise, 330
Mary Juanita, 214.


I can see that this is likely an actual book and likely that book would be held in various family history archives and perhaps in public libraries…

I can see such a book in the National Library of Australia’s online catalogue…

https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/33696348?q&versionId=41444490

Queensland family history society had a CDROM made back in 1992  :)

I do not have the CD, and I am no where near Canberra, but hopefully there will be someone who will be able to get to the National Library and look up those references, and better still, hopefully those references include pointers to Francis Charles BRYEN's marriage in TNG. 

I have heard back from my rellie,  yes, expat BDMs were meant to be recorded with the Australian Department of External Affairs (fore-runner to DFAT) but there was no real system of follow up and many records were abandoned when Rabaul fell in 1942. 



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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #33 on: Monday 30 December 19 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Will try and obtain a copy Thank you.
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Re: Francis Charles & Dorothy Beryl BRYEN
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 25 April 20 02:38 BST (UK) »
Hi my name is Bonita Jamieson nee Bryen , daughter of late Walter Bryen , Francis was my uncle.Interested to see how we are related here