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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #9 on: Monday 30 December 19 19:22 GMT (UK) »
What was the name of his wife, and where was she from?

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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #10 on: Monday 30 December 19 21:25 GMT (UK) »
His wife was Bridget Ware who married Martin Loftus, who died and she had daughter by Thomas Watson in 1887 then they married in 1890. He was an Ag Lab from Nottinghamshire, then Lab and on his stepsonís admission papers into Gordons Boys Home states lost arm in colliery accident and now an itinerant musician. Bridget was b Shrewsbury in 1849 and lived in Stourbridge before moving to London with Thomas. Her parents Anthony Ware and Bridget Burke were born in Ireland.

Thanks for link Garibaldired, looks very interesting.

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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #11 on: Monday 30 December 19 22:02 GMT (UK) »
In 1891 he was a Farm Labourer on the census - had he lost his arm by then?

He is also a general labourer in 1901, so when does he do his organ grinding?


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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #12 on: Monday 30 December 19 22:19 GMT (UK) »
His wife was Bridget Ware who married Martin Loftus, who died and she had daughter by Thomas Watson in 1887 then they married in 1890. He was an Ag Lab from Nottinghamshire, then Lab and on his stepsonís admission papers into Gordons Boys Home states lost arm in colliery accident and now an itinerant musician. Bridget was b Shrewsbury in 1849 and lived in Stourbridge before moving to London with Thomas. Her parents Anthony Ware and Bridget Burke were born in Ireland.

Marriage of Bridget to Thomas was in 1900, St Geo. H Sq.

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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #13 on: Monday 30 December 19 22:30 GMT (UK) »
In 1911 the marriage is claimed to have been 42 years ago, and there were 13 children, 9 still living.  Have you identified them all?  Only in 1911 does he claim to be a musician.

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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 01:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chempat. Yes all children verified. The Loftus children adopted the Watson surname but my Grandfather John b 1882 in Kidderminster (father was a travelling Hawker) reverted back to Loftus officially in writing when in the Army. They were all very poor. I am only curious about Thomas before he married. He was a batchelor, she a widow. His father called James, a deceased labourer. Hers, Anthony, who was a Rag Gather in his later life.

I will investigate the great links you have all sent me. Thank you.

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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 05 January 20 13:37 GMT (UK) »
I found details of my relative's death on this site .


http://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/Fatalities/Alan-Beales-Database.html
Buxton - (Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire)

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Re: Long shot - colliery accident
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 05 January 20 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the database. Iíll have a good look through. My goodness it brings home what a dangerous job this was. So many dead and injured.