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John Smith "of Philip Westwood at Liverpool"
« on: Friday 10 January 20 14:31 GMT (UK) »
I wonder can anyone help me out?  I have come across a family marriage of 23rd December 1866 of John Smith (Seaman)and an Annie Bailie in the Ballyphilip Church of Ireland in Portaferry Co Down.  While Annie Bailie's address is given as Portaferry, John Smith's is given as "of Philip Westwood  at Liverpool".   Would this mean that as he was a seaman his home address was technically perhaps a ship?  I have been unable to find a birth for him and do not know if he was from Liverpool or Portaferry.  His father is named on the certificate as William Smith, "cabinet maker".

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Re: John Smith "of Philip Westwood at Liverpool"
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 January 20 15:59 GMT (UK) »
How old was John when he married?  Where did they live after marriage - Ireland?

Is there record of a ship of that name around 1866.
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Re: John Smith "of Philip Westwood at Liverpool"
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 January 20 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Here's the marriage record;

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11519/8236337.pdf

i think it says 'Ship Westwood at Liverpool'. Compare the 'S' of ship with that of seaman in the previous column.

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Added: the date is the 23rd January 1866
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Re: John Smith "of Philip Westwood at Liverpool"
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 January 20 20:14 GMT (UK) »

The death of Nicholas Bailie, father of Ann Bailie, in Portaferry in 1883.     #67
The informant is Annie Smyth (sic), daughter from Portaferry.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06379/4830867.pdf

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Re: John Smith "of Philip Westwood at Liverpool"
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 January 20 20:34 GMT (UK) »
There was only one British ship with the name WESTWOOD sailing in 1866. She was registered in Liverpool and owned by C W and R Shand of 4 Old Church Street, Liverpool. Her Official Number was 29166.
Her 1866 Logbooks and Crew Agreements are available at a cost from here.

https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=29166

These documents should record if your man was on board. Just ask for the pages covering the date 23/Jan/1866. He might have been between ships. So say between 1/Dec/1865 and 1/March/1866. Her 1865 Crew Agreements are stored At NMM Greenwich.

https://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum/caird-library/crew-lists-agreements-official-logs-request-form

 There was never a British or Empire ship with the name PHILIP WESTWOOD. Of course he may have been lodging with a man called Philip Westwood but I think this scenario would have been unlikely.
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Re: John Smith "of Philip Westwood at Liverpool"
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 January 20 03:54 GMT (UK) »
Here's the marriage record;

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11519/8236337.pdf

i think it says 'Ship Westwood at Liverpool'. Compare the 'S' of ship with that of seaman in the previous column.

KG

Added: the date is the 23rd January 1866

Yes, it says Ship Westwood.

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