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Simon McVeety left Cavan in 1820
« on: Wednesday 15 January 20 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Iím looking for help finding information on my ggg grandfather. He was born in Cavan Co. in 1809 and left with his brother James and mother (maiden name Watson) for Canada in 1820. They were not Catholic, listed in Canada Census as Church of England.

How do I find out his birthplace? Parents names? Ship he took to Canada?

Thank you in advance for your help. Iím planning to visit in August 2020.

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Re: Simon McVeety left Cavan in 1820
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 18:22 GMT (UK) »


How do you know they were from Co Cavan?


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Re: Simon McVeety left Cavan in 1820
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 18:23 GMT (UK) »
You'll need to start in Canada and check all possible records there before looking in Ireland.

Submitted family tree has some sources you can start looking at (there is more on Family search, just search for 'simon mcveety' in 'canada.'
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3FWX-YVL

Early passenger records are not complete and it's really a hit or miss matter if you can find something but if anything does survive for c1820 it might just list name, ages & occupations although could just list adults & number of children.
Since birth registration in Ireland didn't start until 1864 you need to see if church records survive (not all that do survive are online). A church marriage record would probably just list date, bride & groom, whilst a baptism might just have date of baptism, child's name & parents (or maybe just father). A townland may not be listed in church records.
If they were Church of Ireland the church registers may not exist any longer- many pre-1870 COI registers were sent to Dublin for safekeeping which is ironic because most there were destroyed in fire at Four Courts during Civil War (1922).

This page says James McVeety born Anna in County Cavan. If that is correct them the civil parish of Annagh is one possibility-
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/annagh/
This map shows the current churches in Cavan but there might be others that closed.
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/find-a-church/parish/13700/annagh-belturbet
More on Annagh Civil Parish and what records might be available-
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Annagh_Civil_Parish,_County_Cavan,_Ireland_Genealogy
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/CAV/Anna

Naturally you should check resources in Canada such as gravestones, local histories, census & vital records, etc. as well as seeing if other descendants have more details.
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Re: Simon McVeety left Cavan in 1820
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, aghadowey! That is helpful. I'm sorry, where does it say he was born in Annagh parish?

Am I better off going in person to do a search in Dublin or directly in Cavan?

Thank you.

We have completed the family genealogy from the point of arrival in Canada, but very little is known of our Irish roots.

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Re: Simon McVeety left Cavan in 1820
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 20:13 GMT (UK) »
I'm sorry but I don't think you've exhausted all Canadian resources if you weren't sure of the mother's and father's Christian names for brothers Simon & James.

For some reason the link didn't show up in my posted supply, so here it is-
https://www.myheritage.com/names/simon_mcveety

The link which shows Annagh, Co. Cavan is a submitted record and would need verification. If you look at the link you will see it only says 'Annagh' however, it also gives baptism date so a record may exist. More details are probably available on that site and perhaps a way to contact the tree holder.

Have you done any DNA tests? that might, of might not, provide more details.

Where to research in Ireland depends entirely on what you are looking for, what records are actually available, etc.
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Re: Simon McVeety left Cavan in 1820
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Some McVeetys seem to be Catholic so you might find relatives in R.C. Parish Registers. However, the records seem to start mid-1800s-
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0815&parish=Annagh
Here's what's available online (free)-
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0815
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Re: Simon McVeety left Cavan in 1820
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 20:25 GMT (UK) »




How do you know they were from Co Cavan?


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