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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 19 January 20 03:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cass
I think the witnesses are
Grant Allen & Henrietta Clinch
Its a bit hard to read but there is a problem with rootschat adding files so I can't upload it

Patricia
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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 19 January 20 04:00 GMT (UK) »
There is a death record in BDM VIC - 10805/1929 for a potential brother.

- Robert Francis SMITH
Death: 1929
Father: William SMITH
Mother: Matilda Ann COHEN
Location: Melbourne East
Age: 45

The age is out by three years from the date listed in LINC Tasmania records but everything else fits.

There is also a possible match on NAA (naa.gov.au) Barcode 60215522

- Robert Francis SMITH
Age: 31
Born: Lilydale TAS (Lilydale is close to Launceston)
Address: East Brunswick Melbourne VIC
Occupation: Bricklayer (Same as his brother)

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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 19 January 20 04:46 GMT (UK) »
Witness Henrietta Clinch   

could be a connection  Surname of ROSS  turns up again , Maybe i am wrong

Death details VIC BDM for a CLINCH Edward

DEATH   CLINCH  Edward Robert Lindsay
Mother Henrietta  ROSS     Father  CLINCH Robert
Warburton  Malvern  Age  58  1971

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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 19 January 20 05:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi stsearcher

Thanks for that information,  it does appear that it was parents and at least some of Tom's siblings that moved from Tasmania to Victoria.

Marjorie thinks that Tom learnt bricklaying from his brother Bob (Robert).

Patricia
Beeson, Booth, Brelisford, Clarke, Crawford, Cunningham, Davies, Fraser, Gould, Howl, Hodgetts, Humphrys, Isaac, Johnson, Jones, Kerr, McLeod, Newell, Newman, Rourke, Roxburgh, Stanyard, Stewart, Tresedder, White, Woolls
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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 19 January 20 05:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cass
Are you thinking that Henrietta Clinch married into the Ross family and that is a connection with Hilda May Ross.
How are you connected?

Patricia
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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 19 January 20 06:16 GMT (UK) »
Marjorie lived with Elsie and Tom and was told when she was fifteen years old that Tom was her father and not her step father.

Patricia

I have not been able to locate the couple Tom and Elsie sharing an address on the Victorian Electoral Roll.
Tom is located in the areas you have listed-Carnegie/and Fitzroy. A bricklayer and in later life a munition worker I think.
But his address is not shared by Elsie that I can see (not in the name SMITH anyway)

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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 19 January 20 06:29 GMT (UK) »
In 1922, Henrietta CLINCH and her husband were livng apart.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/165127701

She was without support.

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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 19 January 20 06:35 GMT (UK) »
However, she apparently remarried and died as

Henrietta  DODDY
Age:75
At Chel, Victoria
Alexander ROSS
Elizabeth SHELDON
Year:1969

So she was the aunt EDIT sister of the bride.

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Re: Road block - SMITH, Thomas John
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 19 January 20 07:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sparrett / Sue

I think the reason you didn't find Tom and Elsie at the same address under the name SMITH might be because Elsie was married and widowed prior to meeting Tom.
thank you, the information is filling out

Patricia


Beeson, Booth, Brelisford, Clarke, Crawford, Cunningham, Davies, Fraser, Gould, Howl, Hodgetts, Humphrys, Isaac, Johnson, Jones, Kerr, McLeod, Newell, Newman, Rourke, Roxburgh, Stanyard, Stewart, Tresedder, White, Woolls
Census information is Crown copyright, from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/