Author Topic: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?  (Read 1106 times)

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:56 GMT (UK) »
James William Hales 1875 J qtr ref 4b 130

same but                 1876 D qtr ref 4b 134

No mother's maiden name on either

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 January 20 16:08 GMT (UK) »
James is on  the 1911 Norwich(East Wymer) census, age 30, with his mother Leah, 50, brother Herbert, 20 & sister Leah Maud, 13. James' occ is Bootmaker.

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 18 January 20 16:15 GMT (UK) »
The family are also on the 1901 census in East Wymer, but James jnr is not present. 4 more siblings, Alice 21, John 19, Rosa 15 & Ellen 13.

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 18 January 20 16:17 GMT (UK) »
National School Admission Registers :

James Symonds  d.o.b. 17.9.76.  admitted 20.10.80. St Peter Parmentergate National School, Norwich
Parent/Guardian : Leah Symonds , Watson's Yard

Interesting that the birthdate matches the 1939 .

"Interesting" is an understatement. I think james-of-leah looks like my guy. So that means the other records relate too, as the jigaw pieces tumble nicely into place.

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 18 January 20 17:17 GMT (UK) »
James Symonds Snr was a Shoemaker & George Berryman was a boot machinist. Could be he worked for James. Hence including Symonds in his offsprings names.

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 19 January 20 08:57 GMT (UK) »
Well hidden in the 1881 Census ...  ;D

RG11/1942/ 74 p19

The surname is "Simons" and wife "Leah Margaret" is going by "Margaret" (which she also does later on).

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Re: James William Symonds, Norwich, 1876-1956 ?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 19 January 20 16:50 GMT (UK) »
I hope you can check this out, found it a bit confusing

freebmd's
Dec qtr 1876
Norwich
James W Symonds
ref shows D27
referred to Hales

So I checked on James W Hales, no mmn and against this but it shows occasional copy A

I have no idea what this means

Might not be anything to do with you but it seems strange

James William Hales 1875 J qtr ref 4b 130

same but                 1876 D qtr ref 4b 134

No mother's maiden name on either


Not sure if this helps or not someone had asked the question

New GRO indexes: what is an 'occasional copy'? - see link below for the full question/answer
https://genealogy-specialists.com/threads/occasional-copy-a.8646/

Here’s a snippet
Where original registration has been amended in some way, requiring an “occasional copy” to be sent to the Registrar General
(ie to supersede the original Quarterly Certified Copy).

This is also on FreeBMD when you click on D27

This entry appears to be a late entry referring to the following
Dec 1927 Symonds   James W   mmn Hales   Norwich   4b   136
               
The above transcription represents what is in the GRO index but it is referred to by the following entry
Births 1876 Dec: Symonds James W Norwich ,?, see D27 which implies that this is a late entry, that is an entry that has been registered in a quarter later than the event

These are the baptisms of James SYMONDS & Leah's children

John bn 4th Nov 1881
Alice  bn 24th May 1879
Baptism    27 Jul 1892 St Peter Parmentergate, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father:   James Symonds, shoemaker Mother: Margaret abode

Ellen birth 14 Mar 1888
Herbert Birth 19 Sep 1883
Baptism 1 May 1884 St Peter Parmentergate, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father: James Symonds, shoemaker. Mother: Leah Margaret abode Lower Watson’s Yard

Rosa Birth 7 May 1885
Baptism 27 May 1885 St Peter Parmentergate, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father: James Symonds, shoemaker Mother: Margaret , Lower Watson’s Yard

Leah Maud Margaret (this has been crossed out)
Baptism  20 Dec 1896 Norwich, St Peter Parmentergate
father James Symonds shoemaker mother Leah Maud abode Watson’s Court
Archive   Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference   PD 162/108
Archive year range   1883-1979

Ellen bn 13th March 1850
Leah bn   6 May 1855
Alice bn 11th July 1859
Baptism 3 May 1861 Norwich, St Julian, Norfolk, England
Mother:   Sarah HALES, singlewoman

1861c Piece:   1215 Folio:   4 Page Number:   6
Mary HALES   61 Wid
Sarah Hales   30 dau
William Hales   13 gd/son
Ellen Hales   11 gd/dau
Leah Hales   5 gd/dau
Alice Hales   1 gd/dau


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