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are all burials recorded
« on: Monday 20 January 20 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi my grandmother Martha Bennett died in Greet House in Southwell, Notts. on 20 Dec 1944.
This what used to be the Workhouse.
Ican not find where she was buried.---- is there definitely a record of all burials ?

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Re: are all burials recorded
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 14:45 GMT (UK) »
Every burial is recorded in the register of the cemetery or graveyard.

If no evidence of a burial can be found, the possibilities would include:
Burial away from the area of the death (or in a local cemetery you haven't found yet)
Burial records missing (due to fire, flood, bombing etc.)
Cremation (but all crematoria keep records)
Lack of sufficient remains (lost at sea, missing in war, died in explosion etc.)
Body donated for research.

Obviously, some of the above would not apply to your grandmother.

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 15:04 GMT (UK) »
What was Greet House by 1944? It was no longer a workhouse - could it have been a hospital?

Where was she in the 1939 register, that may give you the area she was buried in.
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Re: are all burials recorded
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 17:06 GMT (UK) »
What was Greet House by 1944? It was no longer a workhouse - could it have been a hospital?

Yes. Scroll down for timeline:

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-workhouse-southwell/features/the-history-of-firbeck-at-the-workhouse
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Wondered if it could be an isolation hospital. The death cert. would say why she died.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 19:32 GMT (UK) »
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Ican not find where she was buried.---- is there definitely a record of all burials ?

As philipsearching said, all burials are recorded somewhere, but majority are not on line. Most people were buried near where they lived, so contact the nearest cemeteries to that and ask if they have any record of her burial. It shouldn't take them long to look as you have her actual date of death.
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 January 20 13:54 GMT (UK) »
thanks guys
    1939 shows her living in Mansfield Woodhouse but I think after that she lived in  Hucknall. I have checked cem. records with both councils but nothing shows. Could she be in unmarked grave within workhouse grounds?

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Bennett, Tennant, Richards, Price.....Staffordshire
Reid, Brown, Harrison, Saunders, Coetzer........South Africa and Scotland.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 January 20 14:27 GMT (UK) »
Now belongs to the National Trust and open to the public. They have people there who know the history of the place so might be worth contacting them re burials.

Upton, and Southwell close so a possibility.

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-workhouse-southwell
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Re: are all burials recorded
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 January 20 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Previous discussion, for reference:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=635849.0

The link that I posted further back in this thread indicates that Greet House became known as Firbeck Infirmary, which existed until 1989. The National Trust then took it on in 1997.

As suggested in that previous discussion, I would try Notts Archives first.

Also see this:

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-workhouse-southwell/features/re-imagining-the-workhouse-southwell

"A library space within Firbeck Infirmary, with a searchable database, will be available to explore Workhouse records including census returns, statistics and inspector’s reports along with workhouse reference books and genealogy books available to browse."
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham