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McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« on: Saturday 25 January 20 01:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello
My Grandmother, was Agnes Wallace McPherson (1894 (Scotland)-1965 died in Australia), daughter of Robert Henderson McPherson and Sarah McPhail Campbell. Sarah was from the Isle of Mull and they married in Maryhill, Glasgow.
Their other children were :-
Private James McPherson, ARG & SUTH'D HIGHRS, and KIA 30/9/1916, I'm told, on his 21st birthday.
Robert - disappeared during WWII and no-one seems to know what happened to him.

Agnes always proudly said that we are descended from William Wallace, & I would like to find out if this is true.

Agnes Wallace McPherson married Englishman (which was very controversial at the time!),  Albert Frederick Laughton on 14/4/1919 in Maryhill, Glasgow, where they lived until 1952 before emigrating to Australia.

I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the direction of where I could potentially find Wallace roots, if this is indeed true. I will be visiting Scotland in May 2020 & would love to have more information to enhance my trip. Thank you if you can help  :)

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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 January 20 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Birth: MCPHERSON Agnes Wallace F 1893 644/9 1863 Kelvin

Marriage: 1891 622/1 22 Maryhill Lanark MCPHERSON Robert to CAMPBELL Sarah M

1891 census: 622/1 10/1 5 Maryhill Lanark
Robert 22
Sarah 23

1901 census: 622/1 43/ 5 Maryhill Lanark
Robert 33
Sarah 33
Agnes 7
James 5

1911 census: 644/14 20/ 16 Maryhill Lanark
Robert 43
Sarah 43
Agnes 17
James 15
Robert 3

What is parent information given on the marriage cert for Robert and Sarah?

Considering naming patterns and given the Lanark marriage etc, I wonder if this is Robert in 1871 and 1881:

622/1 4/ 9 Maryhill Lanark
James 49
Agnes 47
William 17
Elizabeth 15
Ann 13
Thomas 8
Robert 3

652/1 3/ 20 Old Monkland (Western District) Lanark
James 55
Agnes 53
Thomas 17
Robert 13

Possible 1891: 622/1 4/ 10 Maryhill Lanark
James 68
Agnes 66
William 39

Given that you think Robert’s middle name is Henderson, might this be marriage of his folk?:

1862 644/1 388 Glasgow Central District MCPHERSON James to HENDERSON Agnes

Might this be a 2nd marriage for James?

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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 January 20 03:13 GMT (UK) »
There were no recorded children to William WALLACE, though you may be related through his brother John. (I know as it's  a family legend in my tree too - though I'm quite sceptical as the further back you go the harder to find verifiable records.  ;) )


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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 January 20 03:20 GMT (UK) »
Who is this William Wallace?

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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 January 20 03:23 GMT (UK) »
 :D William WALLACE aka Braveheart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace

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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 January 20 03:25 GMT (UK) »
Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 January 20 20:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help.

Yes, I am aware that there are no recorded children of William Wallace, and I too wonder if this is a legend tale in our family also. When my Grandmother signed her name, she always signed Agnes Wallace, she was very proud of this "fact"  :)

I have gleaned my information here from my Father's Life Story. Someone else did tell me that Robert Henderson McPherson and Sara McPhail Campbell did have more than the 3 children I mention, Agnes, James and Robert, but these children either did not live, or died very young.

Thanks for the info, I will try to follow this up.

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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 January 20 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Another RootsChat member has also told me that my great grandmother Sarah McPhail Campbell's parents were
John Campbell and Sarah McPhail.
I really do like the tradition they had then of including other family surnames in children's names.
Hoping to find where the Wallace fits in.

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Re: McPherson - Campbell - (William Wallace)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 January 20 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cate

I think the name Agnes Wallace is likely the name of Robert's mother. The 1901 census gives Robert and Sarah's birth place as showing below:

Robert Mcpherson 33 iron moulder b Old Kilpatrick, dumbartonshire
Sarah Mcpherson 33 b. Glasgow, lanarkshire
Agnes Mcpherson 7 b. Glasgow, lanarkshire
James Mcpherson 5 b. Glasgow, lanarkshire www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/333446/mcpherson,-james/

Address: 109 Hutcheson St, Glasgow/Maryhill

Family Search show this likely birth entry in their index www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY1G-X4Y

Have you checked the marriage cert to confirm his parents' names?

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