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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 January 20 00:10 GMT (UK) »
There is a Mary Wheeler who marries a Phillip DEAN 3/10/1830 Trowbridge St James.

This is just searching on the Parameters of Mary marring in Trowbridge in 1830 and not checking years each side or nearby villages.


Nothing appears for Margaret for 1830 Trowbridge.

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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 January 20 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your helpful leads. I have for many years tried to find the baptism of Samuel Tanner Franklin in 1808. He only seems to be on the 1841 census with his wife and children. He was a market trader at Borough Market selling fish and vegetables at different times. The 1841 census suggests he was born in London (Y rather than N) but I am not sure that this is correct. One of his children died in tragic circumstances in 1847 and an Elizabeth Franklin of Coles Buildings, nr St Sepulchre, believed to be the child's grandmother gave evidence at the inquest.
Samuel left his wife but continued to maintain her even though he was living with another woman; not clear whether child William referred to at the workhouse was anything to do with him or whether he was a child of the lady's marriage; the writing is not clear enough to decipher the surname.
It is purely circumstantial but I am looking at the theory that Samuel, born illegitimately to Elizabeth in 1808, came up to London from Trowbridge and that he knew the lady he later moved in with from years before. The Tanner name could refer to the putative father but obviously I am clutching at straws with this. I could go back to the London Metro Archives and get someone to check the workhouse entry and I will follow up on some of the suggestions made. Just wanted to give some of the background to my request.

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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 January 20 10:28 GMT (UK) »
I've just search for Mary/Phillip Dean on 1861 census and they appear to be together in Trowbridge.  So that marriage appears to be a dead end.

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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 January 20 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks; will continue searching Trowbridge but only when I have had the workhouse writing analysed!

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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 January 20 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge

Name: Saml Turner FRANKLIN
Admission Age: 54
Record type: Admission
Birth date: abt 1808
Admission Date: 14 Jan 1862
Admission Place: Islington, Islington, London England

Liverpool Road Workhouse Register 1861-1862

FRANKLIN Saml Turner, aged 54  - married, partially disabled - Lamnefs

from 29 Clayton Street, Caledonia Road




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Discharge Date: 19 February 1862


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? What age is Mary/Margaret on the Admission Records

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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 26 January 20 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks; already have this. He was in and out of the workhouse till his death in Pancras workhouse in 1864 from bronchitis. The Nov 1861 entry is the only one that mentions his lady friend/common law wife and as mentioned before, he was not at Clayton Street at the time of the 1861 census.

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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 26 January 20 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Coles Buildings were demolished abt 1848 along with 3 Fox Court, Brewers Yard and the Bell Inn to enlarge Smithfield Market.  They were near Long Lane.

The Ref below will take you to them on the 1841 Census

 HO107; Piece: 728; Book: 1; Civil Parish: St Sepulchre Without Newgate; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 18; Page: 31

But no Elizabeth Franklin in residence


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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #16 on: Monday 27 January 20 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have information on the Franklin and Tanner Families in Trowbridge from 1807 till 1829? My particular interest is Samuel Franklin base born to Elizabeth in 1808 and baptised on 25/12/1811 at St James. There are Tanner children born at the same time to Samuel Tanner and Letitia,  John Tanner and Mary, and there is a James Tanner who married Mary Ann Baggs on 25/5/1830 at the St James Church. If I have the right Samuel, he added the name Tanner to his name by the time he got married in London in 1829 as Samuel Tanner Franklin. My theory is that one of the Tanners was his putative father.  James and Mary Ann Tanner came up to London also and there is a suggestion that Samuel Tanner Franklin moved in with Mary Ann Tanner in the 1850s in Islington. Are there any known links between the Tanners and the Franklins?

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Re: Marriage at St James Trowbridge 1830
« Reply #17 on: Monday 27 January 20 21:06 GMT (UK) »

? - as Elizabeth stayed in Trowbridge after Edward was born - ? do bastardly orders exist - obviously she kept the child!

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Baptism at Trowbridge : 19 Jun 1785

Elizabeth FRANKLIN

parents: Edward and Maria


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Marriage at Trowbridge

21 December 1806

Edward FRANKLIN - Widower
Elizabeth NEWMAN - Spinster


Marriage at Trowbridge

Edward FRANKLIN - of this Parish, Bachelor
Jane EBSWORTH - Widow

1 May 1815

witnesses: Elizabeth FRANKLIN and (Wm NIGHTINGALE - who signs many marriages)


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Wiltshire Record Office

Reference: P1/1817/102

Title: Commission, will wrapper

Date 1817

Personal Name: FRANKLIN, Edward

Place Name: Lady Down Mill/Trowbridge/Wiltshire

Occupation: FULLER