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Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« on: Sunday 26 January 20 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning,

Between 1871 and 1881 this gentleman married a lady called Rosalie, surname unknown, who was born in France according to the 1881 Channel Islands Census.   I would be delighted if someone could confirm the marriage details assuming, of course, he married on the Islands.......there are no details in the UK.

Similarly, by 1911 he is a Widower living in Dorset and I wonder if Rosalie died on the Islands.   There are no 1901 Census details for him in the UK or Channel Islands to offer a closer research field.

Thank you for your help

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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 January 20 12:41 GMT (UK) »
This could be a possible record for her maiden name
Jersey Hospital Poor House Admission
Rosalie Banner
Maiden name Martin
Admission date 1891
Discharge date 1891
Jersey Channel Island
Http/catalogue.Jerseyheritage.org
Not seeing a marriage so far



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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 January 20 13:10 GMT (UK) »
They are both in Jersey 1891 transcribed on F M P as Baumer and Banner on Ancestry. Rosalie born Dinard, France.  In 1881 she is a British subject
RG12/4695 f145 p7
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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 January 20 13:14 GMT (UK) »
1901 he is possibly in Portland, Dorset
RG13/1997 f65 p16
Alfred Bonner - Single - age 67 bn Birmingham
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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 January 20 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Rosie,

I think, without doubt, you have uncovered the correct lady.

I have since researched all the available BDM indexes across various websites using this new information but, sadly, no marriage uncovered...........that, of course, may be entirely my faulty research ::)

For the moment

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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 January 20 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Can't see a marriage on Jerripediabmd.net either?

But that database is only for the States of Jersey, and contains only Anglican records.
Guernsey/Alderney/Sark is covered by Donkipedia.
Both Donkipedia and Jerripedia are accessed from The Island Wiki (https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/).
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 January 20 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Excellent research Rosie,

The picture is almost complete with the 1901 Census......I know he died in 1917.......it now remains to establish the marriage detail.

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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 January 20 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Good Afternoon,

Thank you for all your help..........the story of Alfred BANNER is almost complete EXCEPT........it has been discovered according to The Jersey Weekly Press and Independent published on 19/10/1878 that he reverted to his criminal ways and was committed to trial at the Royal Court for stealing a forcing pump with brass taps and a copper bell.

He was identified as a sailor belonging to HMS Dasher, meaning that he was still probably a Royal Marine.  He had an accomplice, Edward BEAVAN, also a sailor.

Can anyone help with the outcome of the trial please.......if he was jailed in Jersey for a substantial period (a year or more!!), and probably as a consequence formally discharged from the Royal Marines, it could help in establishing why he then remained in Jersey and subsequently met his wife.

Thank you,

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Re: Alfred BANNER, born12/03/1837, Birmingham, Warwickshire
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 January 20 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Full details of the court case can be found at Jersey Archive - https://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/

Search on Banner, Alfred

Unfortunately the result is in French. You will need a subscription to view online or request a printed copy.

Stewart