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Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« on: Monday 27 January 20 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Robert Douglas Andrew was a prolific script writer and his dates are apparently 19 October 1903 in Effingham, Kansas to 11 November 1976 in California - which is where the problem started as his death is under Robert H Andrews!
A Google search brings up  lots of mentions including some with biographical details and some which say his name was actually Charles Robert Douglas Hardy Andrews.

Ancestry has a quite detailed listing of Kansas births 1885-1911 but no Robert or Charles or.. listed which matches. Effingham is a small town today and looking at the 1900 and 1910 had few residents then as I gather it was in the early stages of its existence - and no Andrews.
There are a couple of Robert Andrews born Kansas c1903 on 1910 census, but no match in the Kansas births on Ancestry regarding parents names.

An online archive listing based on Andrews' donations then says he was born 1908 . The 1908 is repeated elsewhere, as is his birth being in Nevada,  Missouri  (19 October 1903 birth date) - this is to be found in a document on Ancestry (WWII Draft Cards Young Men..) which unfortunately is to be found on Fold3 which I do not subscribe to. Ancestry does not have a Missouri births collection.

So was he born in Kansas or Missouri? I assume 1908 but was he ? Was he born Charles Robert... Andrews  or Robert Hardy Andrews or Robert Douglas Andrews (various records and references exist for him under these last two names).

Incidentally one supposed reliable source says he is 19 October 1908 to 1999 but nothing found as I expected.

I only wanted to confirm his dates and name from the Wiki article (which gives no details on his origins apart from the date of birth), but seem to have given myself a number of questions which I cannot find answers to.

Can anyone help me out?

Many thanks
John

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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 January 20 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Here's a clue to locating him in early censuses.

According to his death notice he had two brothers. "brother of Philip and Paul Andrews"

The Los Angeles Times
Los Angeles, California
Saturday, November 13, 1976 - Page 48

Death Notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/43112624/robert_andrewsdeath/

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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 January 20 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Hoping to find a marriage record (possible parents names given). They had two children. The first in Feb. 1945. So they were probably married prior to that date.

Male birth(1945): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V278-4HX

Female birth(1947): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V27G-JVW
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His wife Irene died in 1975.

The Los Angeles Times
Los Angeles, California
20 Jul 1975, Sun    Page 36

Death Notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/43115521/irene_andrewsdeath/

I see the  two death records for her are at odds for birth year. Both have same Day/Month, but one says 1909 & the other 1913?

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPD5-7J7

CADI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPD5-7J7


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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 January 20 19:57 GMT (UK) »
Father and children. Details are listed on Find A Grave entry.................with obituary attached.

FIND A GRAVE

Dr Charles Roberts Andrews - 1911 - 1922

Charles Robert Andrews was born August 24, 1877, in Brown County, Kansas, the son of Robert and Jane Elizabeth Andrews.

Charles married Mary Florence Hedding on March 17, 1901, in Brown County, Kansas. Mamie was born October 28, 1877, in Hiawatha, Brown County, Kansas, the daughter of Charles B. and Louisa M. Hedding. Charles and Mary had the following known children:

Mildred Louise Andrews (1902-1908)
Charles Robert Andrews (1903-1976)
George Phillip Andrews (1911-1987)
John Paul Andrews (1916-1977)

Hendricks Cemetery Hendricks, Lincoln County, Minnesota,
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188334376

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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 January 20 20:02 GMT (UK) »
1920 census - Hitchcock, Beadle, South Dakota

Charles R Andrews 41 physician.
Mary F Andrews 41
George P Andrews 8
John P Andrews 3 years 8 months.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6NK-TZQ

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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 January 20 20:03 GMT (UK) »
The Kansas Democrat Hiawatha, Kansas 30 Mar 1922, Thu    Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/43157280/dr_charles_andrews_1922/


1930 census Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota.

Mary F Andrews 52 widowed.
George P Andrews 18
John P Andrews 14

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3ZK-6SQ

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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 January 20 20:11 GMT (UK) »
1910 census Pottawattamie Street Hiawatha Ward 4, Brown, Kansas.
Mildred Louise Andrews died 1907

Louisa M Hedding   68
Mamie F Andrews   36  Had 2 children and 1 survives. 
Charles Robert Andrews   6

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2HG-873

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RK9-265?i=2&cc=1727033&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AM2HG-87Q

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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 January 20 20:15 GMT (UK) »

South Dakota, Birth Index, 1856-1917

John Andrews - Birth Date 29 Feb 1916  Marshall, South Dakota.
Father Chas Andrews - Mother Mary Hedding.

SSDI - John Andrews - 29 Fenruary 1916 - April 1977
Last Residence 07656, Park Ridge, Bergen, New Jersey.
Last Benefit 07656, Park Ridge, Bergen, New Jersey.

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Re: Robert Hardy Andrews, clarification of birth needed
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 January 20 20:29 GMT (UK) »

Louisa Hedding mother of Mary F Hedding/Andrews

Brown County World Hiawatha, Kansas 23 Feb 1923, Fri    Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/43119815/louisa_hedding_mother_of_mary_fhedding/

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