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Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« on: Wednesday 29 January 20 14:03 GMT (UK) »
In the 1905 census Tillie Clarke 22 is living with husband Owan 23 and son Jas 3. Manhattan New York.

I cannot read Owans occupation clearly. Does it say watchman?

My other query is in the 1910 census Matilda Clark 25 is living with Owen 26, son Robert 3 and her brother Hugh 21 written as Urb Ross.

Her previous son Jas in the 1905 census died in 1906.

My query is on the census it states that they had 3 children but 1 only living .
Is it possible to see if there are any details  about their other child?

Thank you.

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Re: Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 January 20 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Owen's occupation in 1905 looks like 'motorman' to me.
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Re: Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 January 20 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Also should have added on Matildas son Roberts birth certificate (he was named Owen Robert Clarke ) it states that she had 1 previous child and I now living (In all ). The birth certificate date Feb 1907.

So I am assuming that another child was  possibly born 1908 - 1910.

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Re: Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 January 20 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you .



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Re: Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 January 20 14:56 GMT (UK) »
A tree online says that Owen Robert Clarke was baptized 13 March 1907 in St Monica's Church, Manhattan. You could try them for baptisms or burial records. They might be willing to help.
https://www.stelmo79.org/welcome

For the civil records, I think you'd have to send for all the Clarke births in Manhattan between their arrival and 1910. I don't see them indexed with parents' names on familysearch or ancestry.com

I looked for  births of Clark  from 1904 to 1910 here, because the output is easy to search:
https://italiangen.org/databases/

And I looked only for the grandparents' names, Owen, Rose, Joseph, and Margaret, based on this tree at familysearch:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LV46-XBH

This is what I found:
8 Margaret Clark and 2 Margaret Clarke
4 Rose Clark but no Rose Clarke
for Owen, only your Owen Robert and a boy born afterward, so that would eliminate him.
2 Joseph Clark and 2 Joseph Clarke born in 1906 or afterward, after their first Joseph James died.

But they could have named the child anything, and there were a lot unnamed.

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the familysearch tree says that their son Joseph James was buried in Queens, 6 May 1906. familysearch says he was buried in Calvary Cemetery:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2719-9SY

You'd think they would bury the other child with Joseph James, so you could try the cemetery as well.
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/64107/calvary-cemetery

Edit to add: If you try the cemetery, tell them the name and exact date of burial for Joseph James. That will give them a starting place, and the other child might be in the same plot anyway. I doubt they will look through everyone named Clark(e) buried from 1904 to 1910.

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Re: Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 January 20 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much.

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Re: Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 January 20 19:39 GMT (UK) »
James Joseph's death (1906) says he was born in Scotland-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2719-9SB

Could the 'missing' deceased child also have been born & died there?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Matilda Clarke Cavan Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 January 20 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Going by the details on their surviving child's birth certificate I believe the infant I am trying to find died in America.