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Look-up at Powys Archive center
« on: Thursday 30 January 20 21:26 GMT (UK) »
I recently ran across a death of someone I think may be a distant grandmother.  Her death is listed in freebmd and I am hoping someone can look at the death certificate and see if there is any information on who her parents might be, or who the informant was on the certificate. 

Name:  Susannah Thomas
Death:  March quarter of 1839
BMD index:  Llanfyllin Vol XXVII, page 47

In freereg.com:
Name:  Susannah Thomas
Age:  85
Date of burial:  2 Feb 1839
Parish register of St. Cynyw, Llangyniew, Montgomeryshire

Since I am in the U.S., a trip to the archives is out of the question.  Thanking you in advance for any help or assistance you may provide.   --- Liz
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire

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Re: Look-up at Powys Archive center
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 January 20 21:33 GMT (UK) »
In England and Wales, death certificates do not generally show the names of parents of adults.  The informant would be there.  However, it is not possible to view the actual death certificate without purchasing a copy.

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Re: Look-up at Powys Archive center
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 January 20 21:55 GMT (UK) »
the address given for Susannah in the burial register is Tanyffridd.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Look-up at Powys Archive center
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 January 20 00:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your replies. 

What is the burial register?  Is that something I can access through F m p?  I may be able to access that at my local library.  Her husband's will and abstract of that will states he was from Tanyfreeth--I assume that is the same as Tanyffridd.  Would that death then be registered in Llanfyllin?

Added:  I found the burial register on familysearch and it also mentions f m p, so I'll probably head off to the library to check out their electronic databases.  Thanks again for your replies.
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 January 20 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Although civil registration was introduced on 1 July 1837, churches still kept their own registers - parish registers.  At this time, one each for baptisms (not births), marriages and burials (not deaths).  These registers are generally now found in local archives and many have been made available either as transcriptions or images on subscription sites.

Civil registers in England and Wales are not available online.  There are indexes (such as FreeBMD) and the partial indexes on the GRO site.

You may find this listing useful in trying to determine where the death might be registered:

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/index.html

The -dd in Welsh names is pronounced -th so Tanyfreeth is the same place.

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Re: Look-up at Powys Archive center
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 January 20 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Nell for your clear explanations.  I am learning something new everyday with my research into our UK ancestors.   A big thank you to all the volunteers who so patiently assist in that endeavor.
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire

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Re: Look-up at Powys Archive center
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 January 20 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Llanfyllin was the registration district for several parishes so any civil event within that area should be registered there. Parishes within the registration district here

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/llanfyllin.html

But husband John died in 1832 so before the start of civil registration. He was buried aged 80 26 April 1832 in Llangyniew abode Tanyffrydd.

FindMyPast has indexes and scans of the registers for many, but not all, of the parishes in Wales.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Look-up at Powys Archive center
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 February 20 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Osprey for the added information.  Question:  When I find a burial entry on a person on freereg, does that mean that they were buried in the churchyard of that particular church?
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 February 20 20:00 GMT (UK) »
at that period, yes, they would have been buried in the churchyard, but that doesn't mean that there is necessarily a headstone.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb