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the gregory family of East Lancashire
« on: Saturday 01 February 20 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi I have researched part of my family tree as far as Adam Gregory - born 1742 Westhoughton, he later married Sarah Kershaw in 1766...…

Now I would like to go further back....I suspect his father was called John - but I have nothing that helps me to confirm this …..

If anyone else out there is researching this family perhaps they would like to get in touch.  I have lots of info on the family from 1766 onwards....

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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 February 20 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

Lancashireopc has a couple of possible baptisms in Westhoughton c1742

1 Aug 1742 St Bartholomew, Westhoughton, Lancashire
Adam Gregroy - Son of James Gregroy

15 Feb 1742/3 St Bartholomew, Westhoughton, Lancashire
Adam Gregroy - Son of William Gregroy
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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 February 20 17:19 GMT (UK) »
Have you noticed that both these baptisms on Lancs OPC are repeated at St Mary's, Deane - with a note 'private transcription'?

I have never seen such a note before.

The filmed records of the Westhoughton baptisms are shown in the Manchester Collection of Baptisms on Ancestry --- but they are not included in the filmed record of baptisms at Deane.
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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 February 20 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi  The reason for the two entries - Deane and Westhoughton is that until 1731 Deane was the parish church.  There had been a chapel at Westhoughton but it burned down - well, it was thatched !

So for a while,  the family records show two entries - in fact Westhoughton only stopped paying a 'church rate payment'  to Deane church in 1867!

I know there are actually 3 Adam's born in 1742  !
 It must have been the 'name of the year'!


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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 February 20 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for the info, Westend.

I know that often entries are repeated in a Chapel of Ease and the 'Mother Church' of a parish -- but I have never seen an entry saying 'private transcription' before.

Yes -- Adam must have been popular at that time. Don't think Eve was though! (You are going to prove me wrong now aren't you).
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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 February 20 13:05 GMT (UK) »
I thought that where it was annotated as 'Private Transcription' on Lancashire OPC that it related to the source of their transcript not what it says in the register

Baptism: 1 Aug 1742 St Bartholomew, Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Adam Gregroy - Son of James Gregroy
Source: LDS Film 2113219

Baptism 1 Aug 1742 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
Adam Gregory - son of James Gregory
Abode: Westhoughton
Register: Baptisms 1716 - 1751, Page 341, Entry 31
Source: Private Transcription
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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 February 20 13:32 GMT (UK) »
don't forget there were probably 3 copies of each event recorded in the parish.
1  the  record the church warden or parish priest / rector made - possibly weekly.
2 the copy the parish would send to the bishop - possibly each year - but certainly on a regular basis
3 the copy the bishop's clerks would make into the final record book for the area

if you look up an baptisms etc you often find different copies and handwriting


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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 February 20 13:40 GMT (UK) »
ps.   exactly what   'private transcript' refers to ...I have no idea...perhaps someone will read these messages and let us know !

It may be when a member of a genealogy group of volunteers has copied out the old parish records....

I know that sometimes the entries are wrong - slight spelling mistakes etc. 

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Re: the gregory family of East Lancashire
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 February 20 13:58 GMT (UK) »
That's exactly what I meant -- I have no idea why it should say 'private transcription' if it's from a Church Record.

Anyway - back to your Adam Gregory --- why do you think his father may be John please?

Looking for baptisms of the children of Adam and Sarah in Westhoughton - I can only see 2! One for a James and one for a Sarah. Spaced apart. Did your Adam and Sarah move elsewhere do you know? Sorry about the questions, but I am taking it that there is maybe an eldest son John for you to think Adam's father may be John.



 
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