Author Topic: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?  (Read 1328 times)

Offline suzilad

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 847
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« on: Sunday 02 February 20 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Maria Crockett was born c 1847 in Kincardineshire Scotland and married John Moir there in 1864.
They had one son James .

In 1886 Maria married William Sinclair born in 1856 in Orphir Orkney I have them on the 1891 census living in Glasgow but can't find them after that.There is a possibility they may have gone to America according to family stories but where and when no one knows.

Any help appreciated .

suzilad

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 46,525
  • Stay Safe Everyone..............
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 February 20 19:09 GMT (UK) »
This must be your couple in 1890 19 Rosehall St Glasgow Scotland ? Did you find the step-son ?

Parish Glasgow St George ED 10 Page 3 Line 1

William Sinclair   35
Maria G Sinclair   44
James Moir   23 step-son born Montrose, Forfarshire. Draughtsman/Engineer.
Hugh P Lymburn 25

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 46,525
  • Stay Safe Everyone..............
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 February 20 19:13 GMT (UK) »
James Moir 2 June 1867 stays in the UK - Finchley, Middlesex, England - Mechanic Draughtsman Retired -
2 daughters.

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada


Offline suzilad

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 847
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 February 20 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sandra thought he might have gone with them .

Yes that's Maria and William .
suzilad

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 46,525
  • Stay Safe Everyone..............
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 February 20 08:45 GMT (UK) »
Not having any enjoy finding this couple on passenger lists to USA or Canada so far.

Have you looked at this scenerio  ???

There is a death of a Maria Sinclair - Islington London - registered December 1898 - 1b 220
Maria was 52 years old.


Noticed a marriage for a William Sinclair to Elizabeth Adelaide Sims in Islington and registered December 1900 - 1b 699

This couple appear on the 1901 census 5 St Peter Street Islington London. Occupation would differ from the 1890 Scotland census for your William Sinclair.

William Sinclair   45 born Scotland. Insurance Agent
Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair   39
Henry Fred Sims   7
Ethel Mary Sims   5

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9ZR-X4R

1911 free index 155 Packington Street, Islington (interesting middle name for his son born 1903)

William Sinclair   55 born Orkney Scotland. Agent and Collector
Elizabeth Adelaide Sinclair   49
Henry Frederick Sims   17 step-son
Ethel Mary Sims   15 step-son
William Robert Sinclair 8 son

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWGM-JY7

Birth Redg William Robert Sinclair - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2F82-SJ7

The son William Robert Sinclair - born 1903 died January 1967 - aged 64 years -  St Pancras London - 5d 986

Burial Camden

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1869635

Food for thought anyway  ;)

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline amondg

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,384
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 February 20 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Mabel Alice Moir daughter of James and Mary Ann Moir nee Wood was a civil servant  and quite the traveller.
1927 travelling from Bombay back to England
1936 she travels to New York on the Queen Mary next of kin Mr and Mrs J Moir meeting a friend Sarah Holman, 228 Harrison Avenue, Mineola NY.
She is back in England for the 1939 register.

There is another trip to South Africa 1949 but I'm not sure its the same woman.

Never marries died 14 August 1977 England.

Offline suzilad

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 847
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 February 20 09:47 GMT (UK) »

  Thank you both for all this information.

I think you have cracked it Sandra- William Sinclair was the son of Robert Sinclair and Ann Clouston and it looks like the  old Scottish naming practice has been followed when naming his son,.William had many occupations over the years .
The ages for Maria and him are spot on she was born in 1847 and he in 1856.
Thank you both again.

suzilad

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 46,525
  • Stay Safe Everyone..............
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 February 20 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Thought it was worth a mention when I saw those records yesterday.  ;)

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 46,525
  • Stay Safe Everyone..............
    • View Profile
Re: Maria Crockett/Moir and William Sinclair did they go to America?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 February 20 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Forgot you to put the link for deceased online and its not working for me at the moment but I did also see the burial for Maria Sinclair - 11 November 1898

Will try it again later.

Sandra

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1117381

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=1117381
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada