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Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:00 GMT (UK) »
On the 1939 Register . 18 Blue Street, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire
RG101 / 7203F / 013 / 9 . Letter Code XDCH
Florence E Buchan . Humphreys . 17 Feb 1912 . Married . Fish Hawker

Could someone check this and explain what Humphreys means?
There is a marriage between Florence Williams and David W Humphreys, Jul-Sep 1929, Carmarthen Volume: 11A . Page: 2728 . Line: 101. The Florence E Williams in my lineage would be 17 years old and he would be 18. Birth: David W Humphrey . Jul-Sep 1911 . Carmarthen . mmn Evans.

There is a birth: Florence E Williams . Jul-Sep 1928 . Carmarthen
Mother's Maiden Name: Williams, which makes me think illegitimate. Could he be the father?
Volume: 11A . Page: 1909 . Line Number: 108

The probate for her mother Martha Jane Evans (formerly Williams) of 18 Blue-street Carmarthen, died 24th November 1940. Probate Oxford 18 October to Florence Edith Buchan single woman. Effects £975 15s. 7d. (Listed 1941) Then there is a marriage: Jan-Mar 1941 . Florence E Williams and James K Buchan . Carmarthen 11a 2489 (Entry reads Humphreys or Williams for spouse name.)

The issues I have revolve around the 1939 Register and the hand-written corrections. I cannot find a death of David W Humphrey(s), for Florence E to marry in 1941. On the 1939 Register, it says she is single, not widow, though she could be divorced, or had the marriage annulled. Is it possible to find a divorce or annulment? Is it possible to find out who made the correction, when and why?

I am thinking this a marriage certificate I need to buy.

Florence Edith Buchan died 10.09.78 . Aged 66. She is buried along with her two sisters and mother in St. David’s church, Carmarthen.

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:08 GMT (UK) »
The 2nd surname is in brackets, and indicates that Florence later changed her surname.
There should be a date there?

The Register was kept updated until the 1990s, so it could have been any time from 1939 until 1990 ;D

However things are a little confused?
You said:
On the 1939 Register . 18 Blue Street, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire
RG101 / 7203F / 013 / 9 . Letter Code XDCH
Florence E Buchan . Humphreys . 17 Feb 1912 . Married . Fish Hawker

And then later, you said:
On the 1939 Register, it says she is single, not widow, though she could be divorced, or had the marriage annulled.
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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:09 GMT (UK) »
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Florence E Buchan . Humphreys . 17 Feb 1912 . Married . Fish Hawker

As I understand it future married names for women were updated to the register so she would be married but married again at a later date to a Humphreys **

** or you might have it the wrong way round and she was Florence Humphreys later married to a Buchan


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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:11 GMT (UK) »
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Florence E Buchan . Humphreys . 17 Feb 1912 . Married . Fish Hawker

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On the 1939 Register, it says she is single, not widow

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:11 GMT (UK) »
The entry means that Florence E Humphreys changed her surname to Buchan at some point after the 1939 register was created.  At the time of the register Florence E Humphreys was married and you have the given date of birth and occupation.

The Register was updated whilst National Registration was in force, and from 1948 was updated by the NHS until 1991.
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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:16 GMT (UK) »

The issues I have revolve around the 1939 Register and the hand-written corrections. I cannot find a death of David W Humphrey(s), for Florence E to marry in 1941. On the 1939 Register, it says she is single, not widow, though she could be divorced, or had the marriage annulled. Is it possible to find a divorce or annulment? Is it possible to find out who made the correction, when and why?


Are you sure it says single?

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:23 GMT (UK) »
The 1941 marriage entry for the Buchan/Humphreys marriage also intimates that there was an alternative surname for Humphreys of Williams. 
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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:25 GMT (UK) »
She was Florence E Humphreys at the time of the 1939 register, a married lady.

She married James K Buchan in 1941.

Marriages Mar 1941   

BUCHAN    James K   to Humphreys    Carmarthen    11a   2489   

Humphreys    Florence E   to Buchan    Carmarthen    11a   2489   
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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 16:27 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure she married David W Humphreys?

Have you found him elsewhere in 1939?