WATKINS, Jeremiah born ca 1789 poss. Llanfoist

[yattonharry]

Hi there,
 I am stuck on the above Jeremiah WATKINS. What I know is that he married Rachel JEREMIAH  Marriage
12th June 1814 • Goytre, Monmouthshire, Wales
Jeremiah Watkins of Llanfoist, bach and Rachel Jeremiah of Goytre Spin by Banns. Jeremiah X'd and Rachel signed as did her father Richard and Margaret Lewis [Witnesses].
I believe that Jeremiah is the son of Richard WATKINS b ca 1745 Llanfoist who married Mary REECE.

I feel that this is a Non-Conformist family as I cannot find any sight of Jeremiah's baptism.
Jeremiah and Rachel had 2 daughters and one Mary (b 1827 Govilan [Deri] Monmouthshire) married Thomas EDWARDS 04 Jan 1824 • Newtown, Montgomery, Wales.

Many thanks for any help.

[rosie99]

Do you have Jeremiah on census anywhere

[yattonharry]

Thank You  - yes I have both the 1841 and 1851 census both of which are consistent with what I know. I have both of their deaths too.  I didn't note that earlier.
Burial
1843 • Sardis Chapel, Garndiffaith
Sardis Chapel, Garndiffaith- In memory of Rachel wife of Jeremiah Watkins of this Parish died 11th May 1843 aged 48yrs. There is no entry for Jeremiah's death although he may have been interred in the same grave and the fact not recorded.  Jeremiah died 24 January 1855 • Garndiffath, Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Deaths Mar 1855 WATKINS Jeremiah Pontypool 11a 103 He was a widower when he died as Rachel had died 1843.
Reviewing this I think I am really stuck on his baptism which I cannot find, so that I may know who his father was.

[osprey]

the 1851 census gives his age as 62 and place of birth as Llanwenarth. There is no sign of baptism for him in Llanwenarth, but this is the period that there was a duty paid on entries in the parish register. So, it's possible he was baptised but there was no spare cash for the entry to be made. His wife's burial in Sardis Chapel might mean that they both came from non-conformist families and he was not baptised in the established church.

List here of non-conformist registers held at Gwent Archives
http://www.gwentarchives.gov.uk/media/83237/list-of-nonconformist-registers-170419.pdf

[osprey]

marriage in Llanwenarth for possible parents
23 Dec 1784 John Watkin & Mary Lewis, witnesses John Morgan & Thomas Kynvin(?). Fees were paid by the parish.

[yattonharry]

Dear Osprey,
Very many thanks for your help.  That seems a good lead which I'll follow to see where it goes. I note you too have Watkins, mine moved from Monmouthshire and went to Merthyr and then to the Rhondda.

[osprey]

My Watkins were in Chepstow and spread out to Bristol and Cardiff. There's a possible earlier birth in Ludlow, but I've not yet found a matching baptism.

 

[yattonharry]

Cannot find the marriage of John Watkins=Mary Lewis at Llanwenarth 1784 but one in Cwmyoy - same couple in 1794: Wit: John Pritchard and Anne Lewis. Could they have married twice the 2nd time as the parish had to pay the first time?  A puzzle.  It does not seem to be on FindMyPast anyhow. Can you lead me to your source please? ;-))

[osprey]

It is on FindMyPast. Try Watkin. Thomas Kynvin may be the parish clerk.