Arthur Isaacs and family late 1800s

[jomcd967]

Interesting that you say Arthur was at some point a tailors assistant....
1911. 14 Leander Street Liverpool
Gerald Isaacs, head, 67, tailor baster, resident Russ/Poland
Miriam Isaacs, wife, 45, resident Russ/Poland
Nathan Nuchemoretah boarder
Rachel Kaufman boarder

Jo 

[jomcd967]

Further on Miriam...

Andrews Newspaper Index Cards 1790-1976
Isaacs, Miriam was Jelty, age 62, widow of 14 Leander Street Liverpool, dau of Jacob Jelty, decd, bootmaker, marr 9.6.1929 at 46 Paddington Liverpool to, see: Cooper Abraham of Liverpool

The marriage was registered as Miriam Jelty, not Isaacs. (Modified)
Jo 

[MillieBB]

Thanks everyone for your input. All of this is really helping.

So, It definitely says “Gerald” on Arthur’s marriage certificate. Arthur was married in Islington and all the children (except 1) born in London . My mum was born in Shoreditch. I doubt therefore they were in Liverpool at anytime but of course you never know.

As for being a shop assistant in the boot making business that would never surprise me as he obviously moved around a bit.  We still don’t know why he would leave to go to Bristol in the first place as a door to door brush salesman. Mum always maintained he was a “tailor” but we know that’s not quite accurate now.  He definitely died in his lodgings of a heart attack. Mum said he was 33 but 34 could’ve correct.

The boot maker theory does seem to make sense and mum did mention an uncle of hers paid for her to go to Pitmans after her father died. Who the uncle was we have no idea as she never ever mentioned names. We didn’t even know about Gerald.

We can’t quite understand why she would have been so tight lipped about it all and whether or not Louisa and Arthur were separated- hence Bristol. As Gerald was buried virtually the next day ( as was the custom I understand) Louisa never attended the funeral either.

My sister and I are the only 2 left now really and very much appreciate all the help.  We would like to get to the bottom of all this if we could. What is so baffling to us is why our mother would, to be plain, actually lie to us directly or by assumption, never correcting what we thought was true.

[MillieBB]

Sorry typo -  As Arthur was buried the next day not Gerald

[chempat]

His spouse was Louisa Sarah Healey (she converted to Judaism). Born any 1894.  She was older than Arthur.  On their marriage certificate it says that one of the witnesses was Gerald Isaacs, Arthur’s father but I can’t find Gerald anywhere

Do you mean that Gerald both witnessed the marriage and was recorded as Arthur's father - as witness that would mean he was definitely alive in 1915.

[chempat]

Are you assuming Arthur's age from his death certificate, or is it stated at marriage or in war records?

If estimating from age given by landlord at death, it could be several years out.

Added:
If car accident was him, and he gave the age, he was 28 in August 1923, so 1894-1895 for birth.

[Gibel]

There is a RAF record card for Arthur on Find My Past. It gives wife’s name as Louisa and 2 daughters with the correct names. He joined in March 1917 and was 21years and 1 month so would have been born in February 1896. Wife’s address given as Shoreditch.

[mckha489]

Is it Clearly Gerald on the marriage cert? 

I ask because the Gerald in reply #9 I do not think is Gerald when you look at the image. It’s been transcribed as Gerald but the first letter looks like the I of Isaacs, and there is definitely no d at the end so I’m leaning toward Israel

So, I just wanted to be clear about the name on the marriage

[maddys52]

Transcribed on familysearch as "Geral".

Also, does it say married 50 years? That can't be right with Miriam's age.