Thomas Smith's wife Annie

[suttontrust]

Thomas Smith was born in Alton, Staffs, in 1865, and he was still there, unmarried, in 1891.  But his daughter Margaret Annie was born in Llandudno in 1899 and on the 1901 census he is a restaurant owner there (Chesterfield House, Trinity St) with his wife Annie.  They are still there in 1911.  Annie is said to have been born in Portmadoc in 1865.  Now, the only possible marriage I can find is in Mar q 1898 in Conway, and Annie could be Evans or Roberts.  I don't want to buy another certificate - I've bought 4 already for this tree  - so can anyone please help with this?  Who was Annie?

[Dundee]

SMITH, MARGARET  ANNIE
Mother's maiden surname: EVANS     
GRO Reference: 1899  J Quarter in CONWAY  Volume 11B  Page 506

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Debra 

[suttontrust]

Ah good, thanks.  I have tried searching for Annie Evans but found no one who fits.  It's always possible that it was her second marriage, I know.

[Ellenmai]

The marriage probably took place in Llandudno, but all births, marriages & deaths at that time in the area would have been registered in Conway.

[wilcoxon]

Does the 1911 state how many years married and number of children born.

[osprey]

North Wales Bmd has Thomas Smith marrying Annie Evans in 1898 Conwy civil marriage.

Margaret Annie Smith was baptised in Llandudno 13 Sept 1899 dau of Thomas, milk seller, and Annie of Chesterfield House, Trinity St.

[suttontrust]

Thanks, folks.  I'm waiting for the marriage certificate.  It seems a long wait.

[suttontrust]

Update - I now have the marriage certificate of Thomas Smith and Annie Evans.  Annie was living in Llandudno at the time of her marriage in 1898 and on both subsequent censuses she gives her birthplace as Portmadoc.  Her father, she says, is Humphrey Evans, mariner, deceased.  One of the witnesses is Elizabeth Jane Evans, and I've worked out that this was Annie's sister.  Their mother, Elizabeth, appears to have married Benjamin Jones after Humphrey's death.  I've got the family in a couple of censuses.  Elizabeth was born c. 1842 in Llandudno, but both daughters were born in Portmadoc.  The task now is to find Elizabeth and Humphrey as a married couple - no luck so far.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Update - I now have the marriage certificate of Thomas Smith and Annie Evans.  Annie was living in Llandudno at the time of her marriage in 1898 and on both subsequent censuses she gives her birthplace as Portmadoc.  Her father, she says, is Humphrey Evans, mariner, deceased.  One of the witnesses is Elizabeth Jane Evans, and I've worked out that this was Annie's sister.  Their mother, Elizabeth, appears to have married Benjamin Jones after Humphrey's death.  I've got the family in a couple of censuses.  Elizabeth was born c. 1842 in Llandudno, but both daughters were born in Portmadoc.  The task now is to find Elizabeth and Humphrey as a married couple - no luck so far.

Depends which census you read. 1871 says Elizabeth the mother and Anne b Ynyscynhaiarn (v nr Porthmadog)  and Eliza Jane b LLanbeblig. 1891 says mother b Carnarvon


Possible marriage

Q3 1860 Festiniog Vol 11b p525

Humphrey Evans <<<
Eliza Griffiths  <<<
Margaret Parry
William Roberts
    
There's an Elizabeth Evans b Carnarvon aged 21 in Ynyscynhaiarn on 1861 - married, servant

Death of Humphrey?

EVANS, HUMPHREY        
age 24 
Q3  1864 FESTINIOG  Volume 11B  Page 285