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Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:03 GMT (UK) »
I hope someone can help, I am not that proficient at looking at US records as I dont quite understand them or what I should be looking for

I am looking for children of a woman called Selina Maud Pember. I think she married a man called Frederick W Cocroft in 1919. I seem to have found that they married in London as well as New York, is that normal?

I think they had a daughter called (*)  Cocroft, born in New York in 1924.

My next problem is that I dont seem to be able to find marriage records for her. Did she marry a Mr Laurent and go on to have a son called Don?

But also, did Selina and Frederick have any more children?

Do American records show the mothers maiden name?

Thanks for any help


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here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:10 GMT (UK) »
It appears that their daughter was alive as of her son's death in 2017, so she may still be living and I removed her name from your post.  No siblings are mentioned in her son's obituary, which can be found on findagrave.com.

What you will find on American records varies by location and time frame, but a birth, marriage, or death record from the 20th century will likely have a mother's maiden name if it is known.

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, I think my problem is that I dont know if that is her son, because I cant seem to put a marriage together which identifes her fathers name which would 'prove' it for me.
here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?


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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Ive just realised I put their daughter as being born in 1924 by mistake, it is actually 1920
here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:22 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Uk marriage just Maud:

Sep 1919 Islington 1b 717
COCROFT Frederick W
PEMBER Maud

Is this the above mentioned Frederick?:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DYNW-CSW?i=751&cc=1861144&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AF3JJ-4ZK

1940 census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9MB-9CMY?i=8&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKQYL-SQJ

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Yes that is the family but Im struggling to find a marriage for the daughter D
here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:

Dec 1897 Pancras 1b 266
PEMBER Harry
RUFF Selina

Birth:

PEMBER, SELINA  MAUD mmn RUFF 
GRO Reference: 1899  J Quarter in PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 9

UK 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLR-K3S

Are you sure the daughter married? There is someone of her name in Chicago 1 Jan 1993.

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 February 20 23:51 GMT (UK) »
It appears that their daughter was alive as of her son's death in 2017

Whose son is this and what was his name, please?

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