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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #18 on: Monday 24 February 20 01:23 GMT (UK) »
Do you have all you need on the UK PEMBER’s?

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #19 on: Monday 24 February 20 07:17 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Selina Maud was not with Frederick & daughter for the 1940 census or in 1942 when he registered for the draft and listed his daughter as the person who would always know where he lived.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3JJ-4ZK  Not sure what became of her.

It looks like Frederick died in 1952.  https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199806839  He appears to be on the New York City death index under Fre Cocroft and the New York State death index as Frederic Cocroft with a place of death of Orangetown, New York.  Maybe his daughter and grandson moved away after his death?

Yes thats the problem, I can see that Selina wasnt on that census, and then that he died but I cant seem to find any marriage for the daughter so am not sure if Don Laurent is the grandson. Also cant find a death for Selina
here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #20 on: Monday 24 February 20 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Do you have all you need on the UK PEMBER’s?

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I think so. There is one sister of Harry Pember called Alice Beatrice and Im trying to find out if she married. There is no marriage of any Alice Beatrice Pember but there is of a Beatrice A Pember to an Archie Morgan. Not sure if that is her or not.

People seem to keep using their middle names instead of first names.
here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?


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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #21 on: Monday 24 February 20 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the swapping about of names is annoying. That 1922 marriage is a fit age and location wise, I suppose.

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #22 on: Monday 24 February 20 09:20 GMT (UK) »
There is a 1956 passenger list mentioning an appropriate female LAURENT:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L94P-K979-V?i=1250&cc=1923888&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A2HZG-9G5

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I think this was a different Doris Laurent - it maybe Doris Sutton who maried Martin Laurent Madera California 8 Feb 1952.

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #23 on: Monday 24 February 20 09:20 GMT (UK) »
This is the FIND A GRAVE entry for Don Laurent with the obituary attached to it..

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/azcentral/obituary.aspx?n=don-laurent&pid=186708444

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/183587628

The person who left the flower is the partner who was mentioned in the obituary

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #24 on: Monday 24 February 20 09:41 GMT (UK) »
If it is the same Don -  this was the Laurent birth (Don) - Laurent - Gender Male
Birth Date 2 Sep 1946 - Birth Place Brooklyn, New York City, New York.
Certificate Number 37081

Don married in Imperial, California when he was 20 years old -17 February 1967 - presumably the couple divorced.

Photograph of him in school year books Phoenix Christian High School in 1962.

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #25 on: Monday 24 February 20 09:42 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage William Laurent to a Doris Beck 23 August 1945 Brooklyn, New York City,
License Number 12126  ??? Is this a red herring  ???

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Note  Doris is now deceased 2018
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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #26 on: Monday 24 February 20 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Interestingly - On a  London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 for Selina Maud Pember on 4 July 1904 it gives a partial date of birth as 31 March.  ???

The SSDI shows - Helen Beck - Birth Date 31 Mar 1899 - 7 January 1988  ??? (same person  ???)
Last Residence:   85351, Sun City, Maricopa, Arizona;
Issued New York before 1951.

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007   Helen Beck - Birth Date 31 Mar 1899 - Death Date 7 Jan 1988
Claim Date 1 Jul 1966

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