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Date please - man with pony & trap
« on: Monday 24 February 20 12:24 GMT (UK) »
I would appreciate an opinion, please, on the date of this cabinet card by Allan Ramsden.
He was an itinerant photographer, but was based in Hexham in the 1880's and I wonder if this photograph was taken during this time?
He clearly wasn't happy with the man's eyes as they have obviously been re-touched (he mentions doing this on more than one occasion in his book 'Life in a Caravan').

(Please note, I do have full biographical details on this particular photographer).
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Re: Date please - man with pony & trap
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 February 20 14:56 GMT (UK) »
Edwardian?

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Re: Date please - man with pony & trap
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:16 GMT (UK) »
It looks to be 1890s but the card stock is earlier, late 1870s early 80s...not too sure about this Jen, I think you need to wait for Jim who has a better idea of men's clothing styles than me.
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Re: Date please - man with pony & trap
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Fashion for fastening the top button on a jacket supposedly comes from Edward VII who had a bit of a gut on him!  ;D

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:43 GMT (UK) »
It was fashionable in the 1870s Skoosh  ;)
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Re: Date please - man with pony & trap
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both  :)
I have several other CdVís and Cabinet Cards on this exact card stock, and they have all been dated to late 1870ís - mid 1880ís. And I do know that he was based in Hexham for several years mid 1880ís.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Edward would have been in his 30's then, what age was the gut?  ;D

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Re: Date please - man with pony & trap
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Yes Jen...I know that card stock was earlier but the outfit with the small peaked cap threw me..I think the top button fastening most likely suggests mid-late 1870s.
Another nice image and cartes with animals are highly collectable  :D Did you get your dating book Jen?
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 February 20 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Edward would have been in his 30's then, what age was the gut?  ;D

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Mmmm...I think he was growing it for years  ;D ;D ;D
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