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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 February 20 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Further to my last post I've just come across the 1558 will of Richard Hayler. So that's one puzzle solved.

Now to see if I can spot the other people.

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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 February 20 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Found the 1576 will of Thomas Greenfield now. It was a little tricky to find as it is filmed sideways! The will is very faded so I am only going to know for sure if it's the right will if I get a copy printed out [and if I can read it]. It matches the reference though so that's crossed him off my list.

It's so good when things start working out.

Many Thanks again to everyone.

Matt

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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 February 20 13:39 GMT (UK) »
I think I'm on a roll!!! I just found Richard Greenfield in 1558 and Richard Greenfield in 1586 so I know where they are now. Thanks for showing me where I should be looking. Hopefully I can find the other people I'm after too now.

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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 February 20 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Matt
Glad you are getting on with them. It takes a while! Some of the original wills are in poor condition, some perhaps may have not survived. Where there are original wills from mid to end 1500s, they seem to be referenced in the index.

That calendar edited by Fry is also on FamilySearch books, it has a preface which might be interesting (don't think it's included on the version we have been using).
Need to be signed in of course.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01p3s/

I'll have a look see if I can find anything else.

Mckha, thank you for your kind comments. It's reassuring to know the posts are being read! We all learn from each other on here I think, and sometimes pick up on sources we didn't know about. One of the good things about Rootschat!
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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 18 July 20 22:55 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know how to locate wills with the reference STC I/ on familysearch or if there is an online index to them online? I am assuming these are registered copies of the wills.

However the I've also found some of them on the film showing original sussex wills from 1534-1700

For example the 1628 will for Richard Puttocke of Rudgwick can be seen on the following link at image 120

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D18S-G76?mode=g&cat=567239

I've been looking for the following wills which I think should be on the following link

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTSQ-CH9?mode=g&cat=567239

Emerie Puttock of Rudgwick 1557
Henry Puttock of Rudgwick  1557
John Puttock of Rudgwick 1553
Richard Puttock of Slinfold 1565

So far I've not had much luck. Can anyone help? I may be looking in the wrong place or I may have missed them so any tips would be great.

Many thanks

Matt


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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 July 20 15:44 BST (UK) »
Edited post:

I have found the film(s) but the link you posted only takes me to a black background in a film viewer :(
There are some seriously faded/damaged folios on that film.  I couldn't find the 1628 will using the link you gave  :(

I read this page here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTSQ-CLD?i=165&cat=567239

This film contains images of wills for which there do not appear to be registered copies.  So perhaps the four 16th century wills have registered copies?  Registered wills films for this court are listed here:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/82159?availability=Family%20History%20Library but you have to be at a FH library or affiliate to be able to view them

FindMyPast has an index for Chichester Wills here:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/sussex-chichester-consistory-court-wills-index-1482-1800
but not the wills themselves.

BRS Volume of the same available here:
https://archive.org/stream/indexlibrary4919brit#page/n9/mode/2up

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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 July 20 15:06 BST (UK) »
Edited post:

I have found the film(s) but the link you posted only takes me to a black background in a film viewer :(
There are some seriously faded/damaged folios on that film.  I couldn't find the 1628 will using the link you gave  :(

I read this page here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTSQ-CLD?i=165&cat=567239

This film contains images of wills for which there do not appear to be registered copies.  So perhaps the four 16th century wills have registered copies?  Registered wills films for this court are listed here:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/82159?availability=Family%20History%20Library but you have to be at a FH library or affiliate to be able to view them

FindMyPast has an index for Chichester Wills here:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/sussex-chichester-consistory-court-wills-index-1482-1800
but not the wills themselves.

BRS Volume of the same available here:
https://archive.org/stream/indexlibrary4919brit#page/n9/mode/2up

Nell

Hi Nell

Well I have had a little luck since posting that message but not lots. You should be able to see the 1628 will of Richard Puttocke by going to that link and typing 120 in the Image number box. However I think that will only work if you are signed in as a Familysearch user. If you don't have a log in then it may not show you the will.

I don't know if it helps to know but the full reference for the will of Emery Puttock is STC I/9/54 and the reference for Henry Puttock is the same so perhaps they are on the same page! John Puttock is STC I/2/239

I presume STC I refers to original wills as all the registered ones I have copies for have the reference STC II.

Like you said yourself the film isn't very clear in places. That said the wills should be there as they have been indexed so you would think it would be easy to find them. If the Sussex Record Office was open I could probably email them to get copies but given the current situation that obviously isn't an option.

Anyhow I have other bits to follow up so I'll keep plodding through these in the meantime.

Thanks again
Matt  :)

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 21 July 20 20:41 BST (UK) »
Tried the links again today - and they worked.  PC must have been having a bad day yesterday.

I'm not sure you're going to find the 1553 will - the film gives the start date of coverage as 1556.  And it is always possible that some wills were not filmed even though they are indexed.  I have several which are not on the Lewes films on FamilySearch.

Image 5 is for a will dated 1556, image 10 definitely has a will dated 1558 on it since it refers to Elizabeth (I).  Image 9 has one for William Mylls plus one other, but I'm not sure whose.  Image 10 has Raynold Umfraye's will which is dated 1590 according to the index.  If the wills are in the correct date order then 1557 should appear between image 5 and 10.
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Re: Sussex Wills
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 21 July 20 21:06 BST (UK) »
Tried the links again today - and they worked.  PC must have been having a bad day yesterday.

I'm not sure you're going to find the 1553 will - the film gives the start date of coverage as 1556.  And it is always possible that some wills were not filmed even though they are indexed.  I have several which are not on the Lewes films on FamilySearch.

Image 5 is for a will dated 1556, image 10 definitely has a will dated 1558 on it since it refers to Elizabeth (I).  Image 9 has one for William Mylls plus one other, but I'm not sure whose.  Image 10 has Raynold Umfraye's will which is dated 1590 according to the index.  If the wills are in the correct date order then 1557 should appear between image 5 and 10.
 :-\

Nell

Hi Nell

I've just been having another look and I'm wondering if these wills are either missing or elsewhere on the film. That said the wills surely must exist as they have been indexed, so maybe I have to go directly to the WSRO.

Looking at the film and images you looked at I also can't find anything for the people in question between image 5 and image 10 but then again  some of them seem to be missing parts and others seem very faded so it's hard to read names on some of them. As you said, image 10 is for a will dated 1590. I've looked past that and when you get to image 14 the will there is dated 1570, as is the next one, and the one after that is 1572. It also seems that some of them are on  the film twice, for example image 16 and 17 show the same will.

It's a shame there's not an index at the start of the film really as that would be useful to show where each will was on the film.

Anyhow I'll keep looking

Thanks again for the help
Matt