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George Dowling
« on: Thursday 27 February 20 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi
George DOWLING and family emigrated to America, possibly abt 1870 and although I have found newspaper articles on family members in the US newspapers, I've not found any details on their journey-date, port of entry, name of ship, etc etc.  I would appreciate any help given.  Thanks Roy

1861 @ Merchant St Gelliger Glamorganshire
George Dowling    Head 43    labourer    Plymouth Devon
Mary Ann             wife    36    Dorstone Somerset
Sarah       daug    16    Bristol
George       son     13    Leigh Dorset (bapt 4.7.1847 Leigh)
Elizabeth            daug    11    Gatcombe Gloucestershire
William       son     07    Aberdare
James       son    06    Bintico Essex
Ambrose            son     04    Aberdare Glamorgan (GRO June 1856 Merthyr T mm Cane )
Charles       son    01    Pontlotyn

anything and everything to do with the village of Brithdir, near New Tredegar in Gwent.

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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 February 20 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Not answering your question Roy but just in case you don't have it, the obituary for Ambrose

The Evening News Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania
4 Sep 1937, Sat   Page 2

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45727708/obituary-for-ambrose-dowling-aged-84/

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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 February 20 17:09 GMT (UK) »
1910 census he says he emigrated 1869, he says the same thing in 1900 plus in the country 31 years and a citizen.
Citizenship papers will have a lot of information


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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 February 20 17:25 GMT (UK) »
He divorced his first wife Mary A Dowling nee Kane? 21 March 1896 according to his 2nd marriage certificate.
He was 76 and he married Mary A Lamb widow age 70 whose previous husband was Mark Lamb who died 1885. Her parents are Thomas and Jane English. Date was 25 April 1896 in Northumberland PA.
On 3 November 1900 he marries again Caroline Phillips a widow.

So the information on find a grave must refer to wife number 2 and 3

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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 February 20 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Dates vary on all the Dowlings - Charles gives 1865 on the 1900 census.  :-\  Wondering if some of them may have gone separately. Such a shame because that is the time frame where there is a lack of passenger list info.

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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 February 20 17:49 GMT (UK) »
If this is the obituary for the son George Dowling, it indicates he arrived in the USA as a married man - married for the first time in Wales.  So maybe it is possible the families could have arrived at different times.

The Times Streator, Illinois
18 Apr 1925, Sat    Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45730775/obituary-for-george-dowling-aged-77/

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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 February 20 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Possible.
Ship Manhattan arriving New York 17 November 1869 left from England
George Dowling 22
Jas Dowling 16

both are listed as laborers, the ages match those of 1861 census but no other family mentioned.
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Just read Sandra's post so not the same family.

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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 February 20 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Maybe that passenger list is the correct one, that's two of the names together.

I found a New York Passenger List with a Sarah Dowling - aged 24 years - spin - Liverpool to New York on the Idaho - arriving 11 October 1969

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Re: George Dowling
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 February 20 00:01 GMT (UK) »
1910 census he says he emigrated 1869, he says the same thing in 1900 plus in the country 31 years and a citizen.
Citizenship papers will have a lot of information

How much information you get on the naturalization records depends on the time frame.  The law changed in 1906, and records from then and later typically have a lot more detail than the earlier records.