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Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« on: Thursday 27 February 20 19:32 GMT (UK) »
has anyone come across Rev John Maclean minister of Killean, Kintyre, married Annie McNeill daughter of Lachlan McNeill of Lossit House?

I would be very interested to know anything about the family and their children; what happened to them all and whether there is any written information to be found.

Does anyone have access to a long out of print book 'The Macleans of Borreray?'
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1770?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 February 20 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 February 20 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you; that is a very useful book. Rev John Maclean is not listed under Killean, but Kilmorie.
He is said to be the son of John Grishipol Maclean, married twice; first time to Annie McNeill of Lossit, but not much known about their family. I think this is a quote from the anonymous history of clan Maclean. Sinclair doesn't seem to know about the first marriage. I wonder if there is more to be said about him and this family? One person or two???
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 February 20 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you; that is a very useful book. Rev John Maclean is not listed under Killean, but Kilmorie.
Ah, a different John MacLean who also married a MacNeill of Lossit.

This https://www.ecclegen.com/general-index-introduction/ includes an index and links to all the ministers named in the eight or so volumes of Fasti/FES.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 February 20 17:18 GMT (UK) »
A heartwarming tale.

So now I need to work out who Hector is, and possibly to find Rev John of Killean's grave...which could be anywhere.

Also,  I would dearly love to know the names of his grandchildren.

Realistically, my luck may have run out?
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 March 20 15:29 GMT (UK) »
I got to thinking it would be interesting to know a bit more about these two clergy families.

Does anyone know if there is a similar clerical directory for Ireland, and any other useful documents available online please?
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 May 20 01:32 BST (UK) »
Hello bagpipe. Rev John is an ancestor of mine. I have been digging into the family's past for 40 years and have found that the written histories are a good starting point, but not necessarily 100% correct.

He was the son of John McLean of Grishipol, a gentleman of Clan McLean of Coll.
The name has been standardised to 'Maclean' for anyone of any section of the clan by writers and historians, but it was only the last Laird of Coll during the 19th century that adopted that spelling. John used McLean until he obtained his M.A. when he added the suffix 'e', as was traditional for graduates to become Rev. John McLeane. He graduated as Master of Arts M.A. Glasgow University on the 15th June 1672.

He became a professional soldier before taking up the Parish of Kilmory on the Isle of Arran.
About 1785 he married Annabelle McNeil of the Losset family. They had two daughters Margaret and Abigail McLeane. The family moved to Ulster after John was outed from the Church.
He became minister at Coleraine, then in 1701 under the patronage of Viscount Masserenne, he gained Antrim Parish while also holding Drummaul Parish.
His first wife Annabelle had died by this time, as the Christenings of his children to his 2nd wife Annie Cubbage start appearing in the Antrim Parish register.
To verify this info you may be able to find online ; ULSTER JOURNAL OF ARCHAEOLOGY 1896 No.1

He died whilst travelling in 1729 at County Antrim, leaving his son to clear his debts.
His eldest son John became Vicar of Billy in County Antrim. Another son Rev. James McLeane was incumbent of the Island of Rathlin, 1740 -1747.

His brother Lauchlan McLean of Grishipol became joint Bailie of Tiree along with Hugh MacLean of the Boreray family for Maclean of Duart. Lauchlan kept this position under Argylls takeover of the Maclean lands with resulting consequences.

Some books covering the family include 'From Clan to Regiment' Maclean-Bristol, and various Maclean Clan histories.


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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 May 20 17:22 BST (UK) »
On the basis of past reading I am sure this is so.

Do you know anything about Rev John's siblings? I have seen a family tree showing quite a number.
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Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 May 20 04:12 BST (UK) »
Only the information above on Lauchlan.
The histories only list two other brothers. Hugh and Charles who was said to be a drover on Coll.

Often the sons names reveal uncles names. John's sons were John (his and his father) Laughlan (brother) Clotworthy ( his patron Clotworthy Skeffington, 4th Viscount Massereene) and James (possibly his wife's father's name or an unknown brother of his.

John born 1700, became Vicar of Billy Co. Antrim, and James born 1707 was Curate at Rathlin Island Co. Antrim. 1740-1747
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