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Offline nanny jan

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Re: Where in Russia?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 March 20 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Not looking good for census records:

From Wiki:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Where in Russia?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 March 20 10:04 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear.  Looks like the 1897 census would have been perfect, but as I read it copies destroyed except for Archangel and Tobolsk.

"Each enumeration form was copied twice, with the three copies filed in the county archives, the governorate archives, and the Central Statistical Bureau in St. Petersburg. The copies in St. Petersburg were destroyed after they had been tabulated.[4][5] Most of the copies stored at the local and regional level have also been destroyed; however, the complete census for the Arkhangelsk and Tobolsk governorates has been preserved, and the census for portions of several other governorates is also extant.[6][7]"


Now, my Russian geography is less than poor, so I cannot work out if St Petersberg is in Arkhangelsk.

But I guess this means there is no online access to this census.  :(  And visiting is not an option.

So I may never know why this rellie was in St Petersburg, or for how long.

That's Family History for you!!!

Thanks for all your help.

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Re: Where in Russia?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 March 20 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Does this help to place Arkhangelsk?

https://russiatrek.org/arkhangelsk-city


My avatar (my gt.grandpa) was "allegedly" born in St. Petersburg but have found no records to help me one way or the other.  ::)
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Where in Russia?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 31 December 20 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Alexandrovskaya.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Александровская_(Пушкинский_район)
It's within the city now.
It was quite a usual thing for engineers and other people from Europe to come to Russia, live and work there before 1917.

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Re: Where in Russia?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 31 December 20 22:27 GMT (UK) »
There's another Alexandrovskaya within St Petersburg. It used to be called Alexandrovsky 100 years ago, later the name (just the ending) was changed. It had also been a village c. 1900 and it became a part of St Petersburg in the 20th cent. It was a village of summer houses (dachas).
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Александровская_(платформа)
There used to be a railway station built in the 19th cent.
You can watch a video about this Alexandrovskaya
https://topspb.tv/programs/releases/95781/
There's even a transcript available.

You can contact St Petersburg State archive sending them a request to do a genealogy search  for you
https://spbarchives.ru/cga_services
their emails:
zapros.cga <at> ak.gov.spb.ru
cga <at> ak.gov.spb.ru
not sure if posting the email addresses is allowed here, anyway, you can find them on the website.