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Re: 1841 census look up please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 March 20 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keyboard86

Thanks for that.

I had seen the 1841 entry before but had discounted it.  Don't know if I'm reading the entry incorrectly but it reads to me as John and his wife Ann and son Thomas.

John's wife was Mary and as far as I am aware they did not have a son by the name of Thomas.

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 March 20 19:29 GMT (UK) »
There's a Mary Welfare (70) with, below her, another ("Philly? Billy? Dilley) aged 30 of the same surname in Chailey with the Comerford family in 1841?

What do you know of Mary and John's children? The family the Mary above is lodging with in Chailey are actually called Cornford. The children have mmn Welfare, which suggests the wife Mary could potentially be a daughter of this Mary Welfare. The younger Mary was born Lindfield  c1803

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 March 20 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Mary and John's children were Ann christened 1793, Peggy christened 1798 Harriott christened 1801, and John christened 1813 who married Ann Harris.

As far as I am aware these are the only children Mary and John had.


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« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 March 20 20:26 GMT (UK) »
There is a twelve year gap between the last two children you have listed so it is highly likely that there were other children, or John may be a grandson, not a son.

Debra  :)

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 March 20 20:28 GMT (UK) »
OK so can you confirm the death of John Welfare was 1855 Sevenoaks aged 92 and what 1851 census you have for him?
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 March 20 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have the death certificate for John 8 May 1855 92 years of age Master Tailor.

The 1851 census entry (hopefully found him on) he was with the Jeffrey family aged 88.  Kemsing Street, Sevenoaks, Kent.

Not sure about who he is supposed to be the father of, certainly not William Jeffrey!  As far as I am aware he never had a daughter Sarah.  As to the Ann and Elizabeth who are listed below him as sisters??

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 March 20 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Debra

Yes there is a gap between the last two children for John and Mary, but have not come across any other children.

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 March 20 21:03 GMT (UK) »
 :) Then you have the problem that the 1841 John Wellfare with "Wife" Ann was also a Tailor?
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There is a female Jeffrey birth Dec qtr 1839 Sevenoaks mmn Welfare?
Check for a Frederica Jeffrey aged 1 at Kemsing Bell house, Sevenoaks in 1841?
HO107/483/ 9/8 / 11

A William Jeffrey married a Sarah Welfare 21st April 1832 Limpsfield, Surrey?
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 March 20 20:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Will check all the information out.  Many thanks.