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William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« on: Sunday 08 March 20 22:41 GMT (UK) »
I would very much like to find out who were the parents of William Bowers Fitch.

The certificate of his marriage to Jessie Belbin Barton in 1882 says that he was 30 years old, born in Ealing (West London), and that his father was William Fitch, a stonemason. I cannot find a record of his birth around 1852 and I cannot find a William Fitch who was a stonemason.

WBF’s name suggests a marriage between a Mr Fitch and a Miss Bowers but the only one that I have found is a 20th century one. I have however found two other Fitch/Bowers links with some surprising overlaps.

One is an 1851 marriage between Charles Bowers of Hundon, Suffolk and Elizabeth Cross Fitch (the daughter of Joseph Fitch and Elizabeth Cross). I cannot find evidence of any children from the marriage and it seems to have been short-lived, as a Charles Bowers of Hundon (presumably the same one) married Lucy Ling in 1853.

The other is another Charles Bowers - of Burwell, Cambridgeshire this time - who had one son, called Fitch W Bowers (1853-1871). The W probably stands for William, because a “Fitzwilliam” Bowers (presumably a mistranscription of Fitch William) is recorded as being born in the same district. It is not obvious to me why he was given the first name of Fitch. Charles’s wife, also an Elizabeth, remarried and her second husband was Richard Freeman.

Apart from the fact that the two Charles Bowerses were born only two years apart and both married Elizabeths, they both had fathers called William who were shoemakers. Moreover, Charles Bowers of Hundon was shown on his marriage certificate as resident in Burwell.

Is it possible that the two Charles Bowerses are in fact one person?

Another puzzling fact is that the father-in-law of Charles Bowers of Hundon, Joseph Fitch, is recorded in the 1861 census as having his 8-year-old grandson, John Short, staying with him. John’s birth year was 1852/3 and his birth place was given as Ealing – exactly matching William Bowers Fitch’s birth date and place. I cannot find any record of a John Short and wonder if it might be a nickname. The only other resident in Joseph’s house was his unmarried daughter Mary Ann Fitch. Ancestry actually states her to be John Short’s mother although it is not obvious why this conclusion has been drawn. Nevertheless, could John Short be a lovechild of Charles Bowers and his sister-in-law, Mary Ann Fitch? This would explain the failure of the marriage with Elizabeth. John Short could have been renamed William (after his grandfather) Bowers (after his natural father, Charles) Fitch (after his mother). It does not explain Ealing as a birthplace but it could be a fabrication that the child was told.  “Stonemason” could be a transcription error for “shoemaker”.

My feeling is that William Bowers Fitch is from the Hundon family because there are photographs of his descendants with descendants of Elizabeth Cross Fitch’s parents and they obviously all considered themselves “family”.

I would be delighted if someone could place WBF and his parents.

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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 March 20 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Where is he in 1891 and 1901?  Is he under Bowers or Fitch as I can’t find an entry under either surname?  He died in Greenwich

I can see a 1911 entry which confirms Ealing as his birthplace


EDIT

Just found him in 1891 indexed as Sitch. 1901 as Wm Fitch.  Birthplace confirmed as Ealing on both
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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 March 20 00:36 GMT (UK) »
Is this John Short?

SHORT, JOHN  CUMMINS     FITCH 
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in BRENTFORD  Volume 03A  Page 49

I cannot see him after 1861

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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 March 20 00:56 GMT (UK) »
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One is an 1851 marriage between Charles Bowers of Hundon, Suffolk and Elizabeth Cross Fitch (the daughter of Joseph Fitch and Elizabeth Cross). I cannot find evidence of any children from the marriage and it seems to have been short-lived, as a Charles Bowers of Hundon (presumably the same one) married Lucy Ling in 1853.

BOWERS, FITZWILLIAM       FITCH 
GRO Reference: 1852  J Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION  Volume 03B  Page 504
 


In 1861
Fitch W Bowers 8 grandchild
Kate Bowers 6 grand dau. 

With their  Bowers grandparents in Burwell.

Whose daughter is Kate?
She seems to be with Richard and Elizabeth FREEMAN in 1871

And in 1901 Elizabeth is with Kate and her husband . Died at same address 28 Dec 1902


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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 March 20 07:46 GMT (UK) »
What do you mean by "the two Charles Bowerses were born only two years apart and both married Elizabeths, they both had fathers called William who were shoemakers."?

Are you saying that you have two marriage records, both to women named Elizabeth?

I cannot see a marriage between Richard FREEMAN and Elizabeth BOWERS (nee Elizabeth Cross FITCH) and I think they were just living together as spouses in 1871.

I notice that Charles William Cross FITCH, younger brother to Elizabeth and Mary Ann was also a chemist/druggist like your William.

Debra  :)

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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 March 20 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Do you mean William Cross Fitch? 
He was also a dentist.

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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 March 20 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Yes sorry, William Cross FITCH.

Debra  :)

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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 March 20 17:18 GMT (UK) »
To CaroleW

Thanks for spotting the Sitch/Fitch transcription error. They did live in Mottingham Lane in 1891.

Ealing is indeed consistently shown as his birthplace on all records from his marriage cert onwards.  Does that not just confirm that he told the census recorders that he was born in Ealing and not that he actually was born in Ealing?

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Re: William Bowers Fitch (c. 1852-1933)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 March 20 18:35 GMT (UK) »
To Mckha489.

Following your suggestion re John Cummins Short (for which, thanks), I looked in FreeBMD and found the record. I see that you have written "Fitch" but I could not see a reference to Fitch. Am I missing something? I imagine that Ealing is in the district of Brentwood for the purpose of birth records.