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Nankivel
« on: Thursday 12 March 20 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I believe that John Nankivel married Mary Bowden they went on to have the following children:-
 Nancy 16/4/1826 born Mary Tavy Devon christened  Wesleyan Tavistock
Sampson 22/8/1823
Grace 26/5/1829
Thomas 27/2/1832

I cannot find date or place of marriage for John and Mary, this would help finding their age also.

Any help gratefully received

Judy
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 March 20 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Are they on the 1841 census?

Where have you got mothers maiden name from?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 March 20 11:26 GMT (UK) »
There's a marriage 1806

John Nankevill
Mary Boden

Ruan Lanihorne

possibly too early a marriage for the children you have?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 March 20 11:29 GMT (UK) »
I already had Christian name of Mary, found surname on family search listing for Thomas nankivel christening

Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall


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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 March 20 15:09 GMT (UK) »
this looks like the family in 1841
Black Down, Mary Tavy HO107/233/3 folio 4 pg 3
Mary Nankwill ? 50
Nancy 15
Grace 10
Thomas 9
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John 25 copper miner
Elizabeth 25
Luke 4?
Mehala 2
Jane 1
all but John born in county

1851 Roborough Cottage, Buckland Monachorum HO107/1883 folio 107 pg 4
John Woodman head mar 42 copper miner b. Mary Tavy
Jane wife b. Overton
John son 4 b. Buckland Monachorum
Mary Nankivell mother-in-law 60 b. Ashburton
Thomas  brother-in-law 19 copper miner b. Mary Tavy

The baptism register available via Ancestry notes on the baptism of Thomas son of John Nankivel of Mary Tavy, miner, and Mary his wife who was the daughter of William & Mary Bowden was born 27 Feb and baptised 11 March 1832.


Possible marriage in Calstock, about 7 miles away
9 Dec 1809 John Nankivel & Mary Bawden, both sojourners.
In the same parish a baptism for John Nankivell, son of John & Mary 26 April 1812 

Possible burial in Mary Tavy for John Nankivell age 50 10 April 1834
Possible baptism in Ashburton for Mary Bowden 22 May 1791 daughter of William & Mary
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 March 20 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks thatís very interesting
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 March 20 15:30 GMT (UK) »
John Nankivell 80 (bc.1784) buried 10/4/1834 Mary Tavy.

Mary Nankivel 64 (bc.1789) buried 29/9/1853 Wesleyan Methodist, Horrabridge.

In 1851 Mary and youngest son Thomas are living with a married daughter Jane Woodman - this showed that Jane was born ca.1821 Oreston, Devon.

So, knowing there was a daughter Jane looked for her baptism and found:

Jane Nankivel bp.1/4/1821 Plymstock, dau. of John (Quarryman) and Mary of Oreston.

Then found other baptisms at Plymstock, parents same couple:

Betsy Bennetts bp.19/6/1814
Luke Bennetts  bp.   ditto
James bp.26/11/1815
Thomas bp.19/10/1817 (assuming this one must have died)
Richard bp.10/1/1819

1851 Census shows Mary was bc.1789 Ashburton, Devon and then found a baptism there:

Mary Ann bp.23/5/1810 Ashburton, dau. of John and Mary.

The baptism of youngest Thomas in 1832 shows mother Mary was the daughter of William and Mary Bowdon.

Mary Bowdon bp.22/5/1791 Ashburton, dau. of William and Mary.

So, the marriage found by millipede is possibly correct although seems a few years too early going by the parents ages.

Certainly they were baptising children from 1810 to 1832 - at Ashburton 1810 (Mary's birthplace), then living at Oreston 1814 until 1821 when children baptised Plymstock, and Mary Tavy from 1823 until John's burial in 1834.

In 1841 Mary and children in Mary Tavy (transcribed as Nankwill on FindMyPast).  In 1851 Mary and Thomas with her married daughter Jane Woodman in Cornwall.

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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 March 20 15:44 GMT (UK) »
In order to make sure itís the right family the daughter Nancy married James Tredinick Gerry(Gerrey) in March 1846

Judy
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: Nankivel
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 March 20 16:15 GMT (UK) »
marriage register for that may not be online. But it was 28 Feb 1846 in Buckland Monachorum.

Apologies that I misread the birthplace for Jane in 1851.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb