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Clandestine marriage 1732
« on: Thursday 19 March 20 12:32 GMT (UK) »
William Smith and his wife Elizabeth had at least 7 children, all baptised in Sutton in Ashfield between 1734 and 1751, including my ancestor Elizabeth Smith in 1745.

I have found a possible marriage for William and Elizabeth. It was a Fleet marriage, clandestine and the notebook reads "Wm Smith and Eliz. Bearn (?) Ba and Spinst. Husb. out of Nottinghamshire at (unreadable word)". Marriage dated 4 June 1732.

Could this be my couple? "Out of Nottinghamshire" - does that mean they were both of Nottinghamshire? I'm trying to make sense of it really, why would they marry in London?




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Re: Clandestine marriage 1732
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 March 20 12:48 GMT (UK) »
I think that could well be your couple. 'Out of Nottinghamshire' implies that they came from Nottinghamshire The missing word is 'Jones's'

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Re: Clandestine marriage 1732
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 March 20 12:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, that's definitely encouraging to read. Would you say the bride's surname is Bearn or Bean? Or Beam?


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Re: Clandestine marriage 1732
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 March 20 13:33 GMT (UK) »
I'd definitely go for Bearn.

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Re: Clandestine marriage 1732
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 March 20 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

More than likely your couple as they are from Nottingham.

Cert for Bearn

Jones's, looking at other entries this looks like the place they were resident at the time of the marriage.  Lower down the page there is another couple at Jones's, other entries were at 2 (two)
Cocks both were possibly Inns.

Husb.  Suggest that this is short form for his occupation  -  Husbsndman.

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Re: Clandestine marriage 1732
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 March 20 18:12 GMT (UK) »
I found a clandestine Fleet marriage for one of my lot in the 1730s; it clearly said that the groom was from Leic, and he had an unusual name so it must have been him. Like you, I have no idea why they married in London and clandestinely. Mine disappeared after the wedding (they arenít direct ancestors) so the mystery will never be solved.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Clandestine marriage 1732
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 March 20 10:58 GMT (UK) »
I found a clandestine Fleet marriage for one of my lot in the 1730s; it clearly said that the groom was from Leic, and he had an unusual name so it must have been him. Like you, I have no idea why they married in London and clandestinely. Mine disappeared after the wedding (they arenít direct ancestors) so the mystery will never be solved.

Unfortunately Smith is a very common name so I don't think I'll have much luck finding William before his marriage. Even Elizabeth's surname returns all sorts of variants. Personally, I think it might be supposed to be pronounced "Burn".