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Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« on: Tuesday 24 March 20 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Dear Sir/Madam

I am trying to trace my Great great Uncle William Webb, born 1865 in Tipton Staffordshire, England.
we have found a record of a William leaving Liverpool in 1887, bound for New York on the good ship "Italy"
It is possible that he ended up in Boston, Mass, he was according the 1881 Census an Iron worker, his parents and brothers moved to Monckton main Colliery in West Yorkshire around the same time as this "William" travelled to America.

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Martyn Chilton Webb

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Re: Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Did William have any middle name ?  What were the parents names ?
Did he have siblings and have you found all those ?

Family search has a good selection of census records, once you are registered, its free.

Here is an example of one chap with a middle initial ? William A Webb who immigrated 1886 - occupation miner (copper) on the 1900 census Township 5 Silver Bow, Silver Bow, Montana.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6Q3S-PBB?i=16&cc=1325221&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMM58-GX1

1910 census Precinct 4, Silver Bow, Montana,

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLCD-WFH



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Re: Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 11:05 GMT (UK) »
The chap above could be William Alfred Webb married in Montana 31 March 1894 Butte, Silver Bow, Montana  ???

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GB2J-3G?i=2313&cc=1930397

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Re: Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Think I might have located the family you refer to which will help those searching.

1881 census    65 Tipton Road Rowley Regis Staffordshire.

RG11 Piece 2858 Folio 34 Page 25

William Webb   54  Coal Miner
Mary Webb   45
John Webb   26
Elizabeth Webb   18
William Webb   16 Iron Worker.
Thomas Webb   14
George Webb   7

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Re: Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 11:12 GMT (UK) »
1891 Monckton, Havercroft with Cold Hiendley, Yorkshire.

RG12 Piece 3765 Folio 124 Page 15

William Webb   63
Mary Webb   60
George Webb   17
Joseph Sherwood 30
Thomas Eady   31
Thomas Cheadle 32

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Re: Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 13:54 GMT (UK) »

I am trying to trace my Great great Uncle William Webb, born 1865 in Tipton Staffordshire, England.
we have found a record of a William leaving Liverpool in 1887, bound for New York on the good ship "Italy"
It is possible that he ended up in Boston, Mass, he was according the 1881 Census an Iron worker, his parents and brothers moved to Monckton main Colliery in West Yorkshire around the same time as this "William" travelled to America.


Known information-

This appears to be his Baptism record.

Baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL35-H2VW

With family in 1881.

1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-DYBX

Passenger ship record in 1887 on the "Italy".

Passenger List: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPF-GD3W

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Re: Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Continuing along the theme that it is the correct family in reply 3 and 4 - checking out parents and siblings. Information you most probably have but it helps give us an incite into the family.

William Webb mothers maiden surname Southall
GRO Reference: 1865  M Quarter in Dudley  Volume 06C  Page 52

This would appear to be the death of father William Webb -

Webb    William    59    Hemsworth    9c   95 - registered June 1893

Birth registration of George Webb (brother of William)

Baptised 29 Oct 1873 Tipton, Stafford - parents William and Mary Webb.

George Webb - mothers maiden name Southall    
GRO Reference 1873  D Quarter in Dudley  Volume 06C  Page 46

Mary Webb is with her son George in 1901 - George had married Eliza Kirby 15 April 1895 Royston District Yorkshire and on the marriage certificate his father William was deceased.

George Webb   27 engine driver stationary.
Clara Webb   4
Mary Webb   65


Clara Clara aged 7 years death registered at Hemsworth    9c   101 - June 1904.

George Webb (widower) remarried 30 December 1906 - Felkirk, St Peter with Brierley, St Paul, Yorkshire to Rachel Owen.

and in 1911 18 Monckton Row Barnsley Yorks.

George Webb   40
Rachel Webb   30
Jessie Webb   5 months
Mary Webb   75
Joseph Johnson   33

George Webb died at Hemsworth 1942 - 9c 268 - aged 68 years.
Rachel Webb died Hemsworth 1933 - 9c 278 - aged 51 years.

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Re: Long lost 2nd Great Uncle William Webb
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 16:29 GMT (UK) »
There is a gap in the children's ages between John in 1855 or 1858 and Elizabeth in 1863.  ???
Records are hinting that brother John Webb could have gone to Australia  - a marriage in 1891 to Elizabeth Stewart Greta New South Wales  and a death in 1942 Kurri Kurri New South Wales  ???
Wonder if William could have gone that way ? Did you check Australian passenger lists ?

FIND A GRAVE (year of birth given is 1861 ?)

John Webb

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142976254

spouse Elizabeth Stewart Webb

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142976036/elizabeth-webb

There is a son listed as well with the name and photograph William Henry Webb 1896 - 1918  :'(

   
Bellicourt British Cemetery
Bellicourt, Departement de l'Aisne, Picardie, France
PLOT   V. J. 7.

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