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Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« on: Tuesday 24 March 20 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Looking for the burial place of Charles Samuel Rowles, who died in 1928 at Prescot.

Charles Samuel Rowles was born 1874 at Runcorn, Cheshire the son of George & Annie Rowles (née Webster), a ‘Foreman Fitter, Chemical Branch’ in Runcorn.

He was baptised on 2nd August 1874 at Holy Trinity Church, Runcorn.

Sometime prior to 1896 Charles Samuel Rowles joined the Cheshire Regiment and served for
12 years. His regimental number was 5439.

He married on 1st June 1905 to Mary Jane Hayes at All Saints Church, Runcorn.
They had 6 children; 1 boy and 5 girls.
Mary Jane Rowles died 1963 at Prescot, age 76.

He volunteered for the First World War and enters a ‘War Zone’ on 19th January 1915.
He gives his address as 21 Wood Street, Widnes, Lancashire.
The 2nd Battalion landed at Le Havre on 17th January 1915.
They moved in October 1915 to Egypt and then on to Salonika.
The Labour Corps number was issued between July and September 1918.
He was discharged on 4th February 1920.

He re-enlisted on 7th June 1920 this time joining the South Lancashire Regiment and was discharged on 6th June 1921. He was given the regimental number of 3644202 and was an ‘Acting Sergeant’ on his discharge.
He gave a false age when re-enlisting probably because he would have been too old.

He died in 1928 at Prescot, age 52.

BUT WHERE IS HE BURIED? CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?

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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 15:49 GMT (UK) »
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Mary Jane Rowles died 1963 at Prescot, age 76.

Do you know where she is buried?  If you find one you might find the other. 
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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 16:23 GMT (UK) »
I am hoping they might be buried together, wherever that is.

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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Prescot registration district covers quite a few places you really need an address for them at the time of their death
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/prescot.html
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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 16:50 GMT (UK) »
There is a Charles Samuel Rowles and Mary Jane Rowles at Bebbington Road, Bromborough, on the Wirral in the Electoral Reg for 1929. Possibly with adult children - (Do you know their names to check it's the correct couple?)

EDIT: Sorry - died in 1933, not 1928
Cumberland: Corson, Eilbeck, Frear(s), Gunson, Jackson, Jardin(e), Jordan, Lawson, Lowery, Noble, Sim(m), Smallwood, Tyson, Williamson, Wilson
Kent: Anscomb(e), Fisher, Watts
Devon: Moule
Glamorganshire: Evans, James, Lloyd, Moule, Rees
Lancashire/Merseyside: Birchall, Campbell, Chesworth, Disley, Fisher, Howard, Price

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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Children born to Charles Samuel and Mary Janes (Hayes)
Charles Francis born 28.4.1906 Runcorn
Doris born 9.10.1908 Wallesend
Jennie born 5.5.1910 Wallesend
Margaret E. born 18.9.1911 Tynemouth
Annie born 1913 Runcorn
Ethel born 19.7.1915 Widnes

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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 March 20 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen the report in the Liverpool Echo of 14 Jan 1928?
He was still living at 21 Wood St, Widnes and worked at Sutton Manor Colliery, St Helens.
Should give a idea for a more localised search.

[Not sure how to post the article or if it is permitted.]
Cumberland: Corson, Eilbeck, Frear(s), Gunson, Jackson, Jardin(e), Jordan, Lawson, Lowery, Noble, Sim(m), Smallwood, Tyson, Williamson, Wilson
Kent: Anscomb(e), Fisher, Watts
Devon: Moule
Glamorganshire: Evans, James, Lloyd, Moule, Rees
Lancashire/Merseyside: Birchall, Campbell, Chesworth, Disley, Fisher, Howard, Price

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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 March 20 14:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to Mary we now have the following newspaper article from the Liverpool Echo
dated 14th January 1928.

CRUSHED BY WAGONS
The second inquest was on Charles Samuel Rowles, age fifty-two, a labourer,
living with his family at 21, Wood Street, Widnes, who was killed on Friday morning by being crushed between wagons at the Sutton Manor Colliery, St. Helens.

Charles Rowles. son, said his father served in the Army in India as a young  man, and also served during the whole of the late war. After leaving the Army he was employed at Bell’s Asbestos Works, Farnworth, but had been employed since the strike at the Sutton Manor Colliery as a wagon lowerer on the surface.

William Sumner, of 86 Lowe Street, St.Helens, said that on Friday morning he lowered a wagon of coal into the sidings away from the pit head, when he saw a full wagon just rebounding off two stationary wagons full of slack. As the buffers drew apart he saw the body of a man fall along the near side rails. He rushed the body out of the way before the wagons closed up again.

William Edward Robinson, another wagon labourer, said he filled three wagons, and being satisfied that no one was on the rails, he let the wagon go. They had to run a short distance and then buffer up against the stationary wagons.

The jury agreed with a suggestion that it would have been better to have let the wagons down under the control of the brakes, and returned a verdict of “Death from Misadventure”.

So we now know that when he died he was living at 21 Wood Street, Widnes.
So where is the most likely place of burial.

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Re: Help needed to locate a burial in Prescot
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 March 20 15:42 GMT (UK) »
There is Widnes Cemetery on Birchfield Road, Widnes.  :-\
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