Zibiah Evans born Hereford

[osprey]

forgot to mention
Gravelina Lee baptised 11 May 1847 at Llyswen, Breconshire daughter of Samson & Elderaiffe (?)

No, I'm not finding civil records for the families. Some baptisms and the odd census. Shandras from the 1861 census seems to have died in 1922 in the Pontypool registration district. He was baptised 29 Oct 1837 in Kidderminster
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGHK-J7K

Diana aged 2 in 1861 was baptised in Pembrey
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1R2-255

so this may be the same family in 1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5B6-719

[osprey]

well, there's a birth reg for Elvira Diana Lee march qtr 1858 Neath mmn Buckland.

[Talacharn]

Throughout I have had difficulty establishing how it all fits together as I could not find ‘formal’ records, births, marriages and often deaths, so I have relied on baptisms. Only from the offerings here, I am now starting to bring parts of it together.

1881: Census . Gipsy Tent Penyard . Dyffrynclydach, Glamorganshire
Samson Williams . Head . M . 33 . (Estimated): 1848.  Cwmavon, Glamorganshire . Basket Maker
Gavelina Williams . Wife . F . 33 . Staffordshire, England
Agnes Williams . Daughter . F . 15 . Caerffili, Glamorganshire
Isabella Williams . Daughter . F . 12 . Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire
Diliah Williams . Daughter . F . 9 . Swansea, Glamorganshire
Penenboke Williams . Son . M . 8 . Aberavon, Glamorganshire
Henora Williams . Daughter . F . 5 . Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Elvira Williams . Daughter . F . 2 . Sketty, Glamorganshire
Rebecca Williams . Daughter . F . 0 . Sketty, Glamorganshire
RG11 . Piece/Folio: 5344/108 . Page Number: 32
GS Film: 101775467 . Digital Folder: 101775467 . Image: 00746

Penenboke I believe to be Perrin Butler.

I have found a few Sampson families and they seem to be a different clan.

[osprey]

birth reg for Isabella Williams dec qtr 1868 Pembroke vol 11a pg 755 mmn Lee. She was baptised 25 Jan 1869 in Trelech ar Bettws daughter of Samson, basket maker, & Gravelinia.
Same church 13 April 1868 Agnes aged 13 months, same parents, abode noted as Trelech, chiefly at Neath. That same day, baptisms for Oliver aged 3 and Thomas, sons of Elijah Williams, travelling basket maker, and Agnes. Abode noted as Trelech but generally at Neath.

birth regs
Agnes march qtr 1867 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 295 mmn Lee
Annora sept qtr 1876 Llanelly vol 11a pg pg 756 mmn Lee

Elvira was baptised 31st Dec 1878 St Paul's Sketty daughter of Sampson, basket maker, & Gravilina abode Mumbles Road Common.
Baptism 27 Dec 1880 at same church for Rebecca daughter of Samson, basket maker, & Gravelina, abode Common Sketty Road

[Talacharn]

Thanks, I need to bring all of this together and establish the links.
There are several families at the same time; Williams, Boswell and Lee that gave their children very similar names. Then they married each other. For most, there were not 'official' records.
Some I find in the newspapers. This evening, I seem to have found Louisa Lee being sent to jail for prostitution.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Here's Samson Williams and Edwin Evans getting into trouble together

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3388925/3388930/92/

A gaol recod suggests Samson b Cwmbuchan (?)

[Talacharn]

Thanks, I have that article but no access to gaol records, so good to know Cwmbuchan.
There is another article where Edwin and Samson are fighting with Edwin stripped to the waist. Another article of a court appearance says Samson Williams is actually Samson Boswell. That is why I get confused and double-check everything. Cwmbychan had roller mills for tin, an industry the different families worked in, possibly during the winter when there were no fairs.

[Talacharn]

Could someone check the original? I found this record that has similarities and also areas I cannot explain. Is Sarbi Evans the Zibiah Evans in 1891? There is no mention of Daniel who would be 10, but they did interchange vans. Should Caernarvon actually be Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire? It seems strange to give birth to Angelus (1870) and David (1872) in Caernarvon, for Daniel to be born in Llandovery, Carmarthenshire (1871).

1881 Census: Mynydd Gellywastod Common . Clase, Glamorganshire [Swansea]
Edwin Evans . Head . M . 35 (Est 1846) . Radnorshire, Wales . Tinman
Sarbi Evans . Wife . F . 33 . Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Urena Evans . Daughter . F . 14 . Radnorshire, Wales
Delenda Evans . Daughter . F . 7 . Caernarvon, Caernarvonshire
Angelus Evans . Son . M . 11 . Caernarvon, Caernarvonshire
David Evans . Son . M . 12 . Caernarvon, Caernarvonshire
RG11 . Piece/Folio: 5354/95
GS Film: 101775470 . Digital Folder: 101775470 . Image: 00451

I have wondered if Daniel is he only child, or the only one I have found.

[osprey]

place of birth looks like Carnarvonshire no place name given, just county. Youngest child could be Daniel rather than David. Mother's name could begin with L?

But Carnarvonshire does seem rather out of place for their circuit.