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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #27 on: Friday 27 March 20 14:47 GMT (UK) »
possible birth reg for Delinda Elizabeth Evans march qtr 1872 Llanelly vol 11a pg 687 mmn Lee
also Daniel Evans dec qtr 1870 Llandovery vol 11a pg 633 mmn Lee

possible marriage for Urenia Evans march qtr 1888 Swansea to John Jones Malyn or David Williams

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #28 on: Friday 27 March 20 17:47 GMT (UK) »
she married John Malyn
1891 10 Pottery Street, Swansea RG12/4480 folio 9 pg 18
John J Malyn head 23 labourer (?) in fuel works b. Llanelly
Urainey wife 25? b. Herefordshire
Charles H brother 19 labourer in fuel works b. Llanelly
Edwin F son 2 b. Swansea
Charles H son 8 months b. Swansea
Argainus Evans brother in law 22 labourer in fuel works b. Llandovery
Delinda Evans sister in law 18 servant b. Llanelly

Delinda married Thomas Tracey march qtr 1897
Brother still living with Malyn family in 1901 but now called Morris b. Cilcwm
Urainey Malyn buried 23 May 1936 aged 67 address Prince of Wales Rd Swansea, burial conducted by Salvation Army.
Birth reg Eurenia Evans sept qtr 1866 Presteigne vol 11b pg 162 mmn Lee
Baptism in Merthyr Cynog, Breconshire 13 Sept 1866 daughter of Edward, tinker, & Sybil of Disserth

Baptism in Cilycwm 30 Jan 1869 for Arganus Evans son of Edwin & Subi(?)

Possible death reg Subie Evans 57 june qtr 1902 Bridgend vol 11a pg 457
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #29 on: Friday 27 March 20 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Osprey,
I have a few of those baptisms, but feel I am not using Family Search to its best as I get anything and everything, apart from what I asked for. Or maybe that is the limits of Family Search.

Caernarvonshire does seem a strange detour. The first letter of her name looking like an L, is the same as the image from Zibiah, the Z looked like an L. Both records suggest the right areas, though age is a little off. If Delenda, Angelus and David/Daniel Evans were born in Caernarvonshire, why do other records suggest they were born in South Wales?

As for your comment about Daniel, I accepted he was born in 1871 as most census records suggest that and both marriage certificates. I believe I have him in the 1939 Register and it says 7 Oct 1871. The other information seems right and his wife is also living separately in Carmarthen. Both are fish merchants. Daniel: RG101 / 7212H / 007 / 19  . Letter Code XEAH Martha Jane: RG101 / 7203F / 013 / 9 . Letter Code XDCH

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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #30 on: Friday 27 March 20 19:08 GMT (UK) »
1901 has Urainey & Delinda living a few doors apart


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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #31 on: Friday 27 March 20 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Osprey,
I have a few of those baptisms, but feel I am not using Family Search to its best as I get anything and everything, apart from what I asked for. Or maybe that is the limits of Family Search.

Caernarvonshire does seem a strange detour. The first letter of her name looking like an L, is the same as the image from Zibiah, the Z looked like an L. Both records suggest the right areas, though age is a little off. If Delenda, Angelus and David/Daniel Evans were born in Caernarvonshire, why do other records suggest they were born in South Wales?

As for your comment about Daniel, I accepted he was born in 1871 as most census records suggest that and both marriage certificates. I believe I have him in the 1939 Register and it says 7 Oct 1871. The other information seems right and his wife is also living separately in Carmarthen. Both are fish merchants, Daniel from his caravan. Daniel: RG101 / 7212H / 007 / 19  . Letter Code XEAH Martha Jane: RG101 / 7203F / 013 / 9 . Letter Code XDCH

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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #32 on: Friday 27 March 20 19:24 GMT (UK) »
I suspect the place of birth on that census entry is meant to be Carmarthenshire not Caernarvonshire. It's certainly that in the 1891 census for Delinda & brother
1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSM6-LQC

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSM6-LQ3
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWXG-6JR

the birth date of Daniel could be 7 Oct 1870 as he was registered in the December quarter. It's not unusual for the date to be correct and the year out on the 1939 register. The name on the 1881 census entry could be Daniel, it's not the clearest.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #33 on: Friday 27 March 20 19:33 GMT (UK) »
1881 snip

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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #34 on: Friday 27 March 20 20:03 GMT (UK) »
I will take the census as being Carmarthenshire. The image looks more like Daniel than David, I cannot make David from that squiggle. From that census, the ages do not seem to tally with the 1891. At least I know there were brothers and sisters. Those I can now add and follow on census records and eventually the 1939 Register. Over the last few days, I have gained so much information, so thank you all. As the census record is wrong, is there anything to do to change it online?

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Re: Zibiah Evans born Hereford
« Reply #35 on: Friday 27 March 20 20:07 GMT (UK) »
The census record isn't "wrong" ;D
It's what the enumerator wrote!

True, his handwriting may be B*** awful, but it's all we have.

Transcriptions contain many mistakes; so always best to look at the original.
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