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Jutsum mystery 10 Oct 1864.
« on: Saturday 28 March 20 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi , first off I have put out feelers to see if fellow Jutsum researchers have the death certificate of theses two family members , if not I will order them , I have discovered Ancestery has cemetery details on line now and yesterday I was searching for Charles Jutsum died 10 th Oct 1864 . I found him in a common grave in Brompton . Where the mystery is the same day of burial 13 th Oct a child 18 months old ( until now I didnít know existed ) was buried in another common grave . Is there a newspaper that may disclose these two deaths ,a fire , a murder ,a tragic accident . I hope I find this with the death cents but in the meantime if some kind soul can point me in the direction of newspapers I can start looking ASAP.
valentine.fairhurst,hayes,hammond,codling,rust.norfolk.deyrujo.jutsum.wharton.lacey,probert,prickett,preby atherley-jones.clifton ..london /china. judd, eubank , dixon , hine , airey ,park .twentyman , dampier , jones in suffolk , limby , derrick , stockwell..

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Re: Jutsum mystery 10 Oct 1864.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 March 20 21:13 GMT (UK) »
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

These are also on findmypast I believe.

Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Jutsum mystery 10 Oct 1864.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 March 20 23:07 GMT (UK) »
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Where the mystery is the same day of burial 13 th Oct a child 18 months old ( until now I didnít know existed ) was buried in another common grave

Deaths
JUTSUM, CHARLES  FREDERICK      1 
GRO Reference: 1864  D Quarter in ST LUKE CHELSEA  Volume 01A  Page 169

JUTSUM, CHARLES  FREDERICK      25 
GRO Reference: 1864  D Quarter in ST LUKE CHELSEA  Volume 01A  Page 169

Births June qtr 1863   
JUTSUM    Charles Frederick William    Chelsea    1a   177 mothers maiden name Rowles.  He was b 6.4.1863

Marriages December qtr 1858   
Jutsum    Charles Frederick   Chelsea    1a   249      
Rowles    Amelia Emma        

I doubt there would be a newspaper article

Other children

Emma Frances b 9.7.1859
Louisa Amy b 25.6.1861
Charlotte Minnie b 27.5.1865

Birthdates from baptismal entries on Ancestry
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Re: Jutsum mystery 10 Oct 1864.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 20:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you for reply , I had gone through Free BDM and couldnít find the childís death so had started to doubt myself . We have ordered the fathers death certificate to see if it mentions cause of death and from there will try to see how the child died . Ie , infectious disease or accident . I will post result . Bye Fred .
valentine.fairhurst,hayes,hammond,codling,rust.norfolk.deyrujo.jutsum.wharton.lacey,probert,prickett,preby atherley-jones.clifton ..london /china. judd, eubank , dixon , hine , airey ,park .twentyman , dampier , jones in suffolk , limby , derrick , stockwell..

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COMPLETED, Jutsum mystery 10 Oct 1864.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 September 20 09:35 BST (UK) »
The father and the son died on same day of Scarlet fever . Very graphic death certificates , no explanation for the different graves but they were common graves and a poor family , the poor wife and family , thanks for all help , Fred
valentine.fairhurst,hayes,hammond,codling,rust.norfolk.deyrujo.jutsum.wharton.lacey,probert,prickett,preby atherley-jones.clifton ..london /china. judd, eubank , dixon , hine , airey ,park .twentyman , dampier , jones in suffolk , limby , derrick , stockwell..

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Re: Jutsum mystery 10 Oct 1864.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 September 20 16:28 BST (UK) »
How sad.  My maternal great grandfather and his 2yr old daughter died within a day of each other and are buried together in a public grave
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