Sarah Holiday

[MattD30]

Hi everyone

I am hoping someone might be able to help me locate a christening for the above lady. My ancestor John Bowles [born 1694 in West Hanney, Berkshire] married Sarah Holiday on 9 September 1731 at Great Farringdon. Together they had five children: Elizabeth [1732], John [1734], Thomas [1735], Sarah [1736] and Mary [1744] all of whom were christened in Longcott.

So far the only christening I can find for a Sarah Holiday in the area is for a Sarah christened on 16 March 1615 in Farringdon, the daughter of Michael and Mary Holiday.

Could this be my Sarah or can anyone suggest any other possible candidates?

Thanks for any ideas.

Matt

[ColC]

I guess you meant 1715 for the baptism you found?

Sarah Holiday
Baptism   16/03/1715 Faringdon, Berkshire


As the marriage took place in Farringdon the baptism seems a possibility.

On An’’’’’y there are two records for the marriage?

Name   Sarah Holiday
Spouse   John Bowles
Marriage   09/09/1728 Great Faringdom, Berkshire

Name   Sarah Holiday
Spouse   John Bowles
Marriage   09/09/1731 Great Faringdon, Berkshire

Colin

[MattD30]

I guess you meant 1715 for the baptism you found?

Sarah Holiday
Baptism   16/03/1715 Faringdon, Berkshire


As the marriage took place in Farringdon the baptism seems a possibility.

On An’’’’’y there are two records for the marriage?

Name   Sarah Holiday
Spouse   John Bowles
Marriage   09/09/1728 Great Faringdom, Berkshire

Name   Sarah Holiday
Spouse   John Bowles
Marriage   09/09/1731 Great Faringdon, Berkshire

Colin

Hi Colin

Yes I just spotted the error myself. The original message should say 1715 and not 1615 lol!

I'll see if I can follow up Sarah Holiday's family and see what else I can find. Interestingly John Bowles was christened in 1693/94 so I wonder if his marriage to Sarah may have been a second one. There's no indication in the records that he was a widower but it's a thought.

Matt

[MattD30]

I guess you meant 1715 for the baptism you found?

Sarah Holiday
Baptism   16/03/1715 Faringdon, Berkshire


As the marriage took place in Farringdon the baptism seems a possibility.

On An’’’’’y there are two records for the marriage?

Name   Sarah Holiday
Spouse   John Bowles
Marriage   09/09/1728 Great Faringdom, Berkshire

Name   Sarah Holiday
Spouse   John Bowles
Marriage   09/09/1731 Great Faringdon, Berkshire

Colin

Hi Colin

I think I'm onto something now. As I said before Sarah Holiday was christened in Farrington on 16 March 1714/15 the daughter of Michael and Mary. I've now found an identical christening [same names and date] in the parish of Little Coxwell which is 1 mile from Farrindon. Sarah appears to have had three siblings named Jane, Michael, and Robert whose christenings are also recorded in both parishes [on FamilySearch].

From what I have seen so far it looks like Michael was christened in Little Coxwell in 1683 and was the son of Michael and Elizabeth Holliday.

I wonder why those christenings appear in both Little Coxwell and Farringdon. Any ideas?

Matt

[ColC]

The parish includes, besides the town of Faringdon, the chapelries of Little Coxwell and Littleworth.

Maybe one is the church record the other Bishops Transcript for the Parish, difficult to say without seeing the original record.

Colin

[MattD30]

The parish includes, besides the town of Faringdon, the chapelries of Little Coxwell and Littleworth.

Maybe one is the church record the other Bishops Transcript for the Parish, difficult to say without seeing the original record.

Colin

That's a good thought. I've also come across some wills which I'll examine to see what they reveal. I've also come across some online trees which suggest that Michael Holliday [1674] was the son of another Michael who was apparently christened in about 1650 son of another Michael Holiday and Elizabeth Tull.

From what I've seen so far online the Tulls were from the West Hanney and Wantage area but that is about 17-22 miles from Farringdon so I'll need to double check the records.

Matt

[ribbo39]

Hi Matt,
Looking at the baptisms/Marriages for Lt.Coxwell ;

Michaell Holliday was bapt. 3-5-1683 s/o Michaell & Elizabeth.

Other baptisms in this parish I  have found;
18-11-1670 Richard Holliday s/o Richard & Ruth
10-9-1676 Elizabeth Holliday d/o Michaell & Elizabeth
26-12-1679 Joane        "           "         "                "
16-3-1714/5 Sarah       "          "          "   &  Mary

Marriages;

22-10-1674 Michael Holliday - m - Elizabeth Weller

1-4-1700 Thomas Bridges - m - Sarah Holliday

You mentioned "Tull"s in an earlier message  -  I found 3 ;
9-8-1634 Mari Tull d/o Thomas & Freesweed
26-12-1640 Thomas Tull s/o Ambrose
6-2-1643 Johan **        "  d/o       "

Burial;
20-1-1644 Joana Hollidaie **


Faringdon BTs;
30-1-1633 Michaell Holliday - m - Elizabeth Tull


There is a note in the transcripts for Faringdon -  All Saints saying; ".....Registers are only extant from 1653 but it has been possible to copy some years from 1589 from the BTs held by the Wilts Record Office in Trowbridge...."

Hope the above helps.

Alan

[MattD30]

Hi Matt,
Looking at the baptisms/Marriages for Lt.Coxwell ;

Michaell Holliday was bapt. 3-5-1683 s/o Michaell & Elizabeth.

Other baptisms in this parish I  have found;
18-11-1670 Richard Holliday s/o Richard & Ruth
10-9-1676 Elizabeth Holliday d/o Michaell & Elizabeth
26-12-1679 Joane        "           "         "                "
16-3-1714/5 Sarah       "          "          "   &  Mary

Marriages;

22-10-1674 Michael Holliday - m - Elizabeth Weller

1-4-1700 Thomas Bridges - m - Sarah Holliday

You mentioned "Tull"s in an earlier message  -  I found 3 ;
9-8-1634 Mari Tull d/o Thomas & Freesweed
26-12-1640 Thomas Tull s/o Ambrose
6-2-1643 Johan **        "  d/o       "

Burial;
20-1-1644 Joana Hollidaie **


Faringdon BTs;
30-1-1633 Michaell Holliday - m - Elizabeth Tull


There is a note in the transcripts for Faringdon -  All Saints saying; ".....Registers are only extant from 1653 but it has been possible to copy some years from 1589 from the BTs held by the Wilts Record Office in Trowbridge...."

Hope the above helps.

Alan

Hi Alan

Thanks for those notes. The names and dates you give all fit with the details I've got from FamilySearch so it's good to see I haven't missed anything.

I suspect that Michael Holliday and Elizabeth Weller who married in 1674 were the parents of the Michael who was born in 1683, as well as being the parents of Elizabeth [1676], and Joane [1679].

I think Mary and Sarah were the children of Michael born 1683. It's this Sarah who I believe is my ancestor.

I'm not sure when Michael Holliday senior was born but it was probably in the 1640s or 1650s. A number of online trees show him as been born c1650 the son of Michael Holliday and Elizabeth Tull who were apparently married at Great Farringdon on 30 January 1633. That Michael was apparently born in Great Farringdon in 1633, the son of yet another Michael! This last Michael was apparently christened in Great Coxwell in about 1580.

Regarding the Tulls. Michael Holliday [1611] is shown as being married to Elizabeth Tull in January 1633 at Great Farringdon! The records I've seen online show her as being born in Thatcham in 1612 the daughter of William Tull. This last William Tull was born in about 1581 in Wantage and was the son of William Tull and Anne Kymber who married in West Hanney in 1579.

Unfortunately I can't find any evidence to link the Elizabeth Tull who married Michael Holliday in 1633 at Great Farringdon to those in Thatcham, Wantage or West Hanney.

I also can't find a christening for the Michael Holliday who was christened in about 1580 in Coxwell.

I have located a 1633 Will for a Michael Holliday of Coxwell dated 1634 who I thought might be this Michael but I don't think it's the same person as his wife's name is different and so are the names of his children.

Matt

[Capetown]

?  Have you searched the National Archives

Google: a2a

Searching for Holliday Coxwell, there are about 6 hits

and include

Minety Farm (23a, field-names) date 1662-1773, with draft deeds and abstracts of title (1730) -1834 correspondance and....

Messrs. Wilmot and Ci, Solicitors, CLIENTS.   Telling of Minety (Wilts) DEEDS. Minty (Wilts)
Eliza. Holliday of Little Coxwell (Berks) .  1697
copy probate will of Rob BROWN se., of Minety yeoman (1757)


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Checking the Phillimore Berkshire Marriages (on line)

John TILLING of Minety married Elizabeth HOLLIDAY of Little Coxwell at Buscot, 8 May 1697