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[shona Hitchens]

Hi everyone I hope someone can help me move on?
I am the great great granddaughter of Henry Albert Holland Hitchens. every hing on this gentleman in England is just Henry Hitchens but we he gets to New Zealand he becomes Henry Albert Holland Hitchens. I got his birth cert from England and am having troubles with his dad who is Henry Hitchens, I have him in the 1851 census with his wife and children but can not find a birth for him to find his parents, all the sites have different dates I have tried each one to no avail.What am I doing wrong?
Henry Hitchens born 1780 to 1796 Northwich Leftwich England,married Eliza Moore in Davenham
Cheshire 10 Apr 1825 have 7 children between 1825 and 1847 mixed places but all Cheshire. have then in 1851 census her and kids only in 1841 census all in Northwich . If someone can help either point me in the right direction  or is on the same tree would love to here from you. thanks shona ford nee Hitchens

[Annette7]

You need to amend your post - you have twice used the place 'Norwich' which is incorrect.   Norwich is in Norfolk - the place you want is Northwich, Cheshire.

Annette

[Annette7]

There is only one census where Henry has given the information himself i.e. 1851 when he states he is 62 (bc.1789) and born in Knowsley, Lancashire.   When he died 14/4/1861 his age given by informant was 68 i.e. bc.1793.

There are 2 problems here - one is that Knowsley didn't have it's own church until 1844 so would have been baptised elsewhere.   The other problem is from baptisms of children the family were non-conformist and his baptism may well have been in a non-conformist church whose records are not available online.

Annette

[Neale1961]

I agree with Annette
I can only find this baptism in Lancashire - but possibly not the correct man.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5L6-DX6

[guest189040]

Henry Albert Holland Hitchens born Northwich 1840, died Aukland 1906

Married Margaret Ellensworth in Drury in 1865, they had 9 children.

Henry’s parents were Henry born 1789 in Knowsley and died 1861 in Northwich, and Elizabeth Moore 1810 Dublin to 1856 Northwich.

Henry snr’s parents were possibly George born c1785 in Ireland, and Anne McClonky c1780 in Ireland whilst the dates are odd this is from an existing Ancestry Tree.

There is a Henry aged 15 going to New Yealand in 1856 aboard the vessel Cambodia, he is a labourer, unfortunately I cannot read his place of origin.

I have long lines of ancestors from Cheshire and over the years the online records have improved but that lag a long way behind other Counties.  Lan OPC is a good free search site but again there are still a lot of records that have not yet been digitised or transcribed.
Hope this helps

[Neale1961]

Henry’s parents were Henry born 1789 in Knowsley and died 1861 in Northwich, and Elizabeth Moore 1810 Dublin to 1856 Northwich.

Henry snr’s parents were possibly George born c1785 in Ireland, and Anne McClonky c1780 in Ireland

So, George was 4 years old when he fathered Henry??!

[guest189040]

Henry’s parents were Henry born 1789 in Knowsley and died 1861 in Northwich, and Elizabeth Moore 1810 Dublin to 1856 Northwich.

Henry snr’s parents were possibly George born c1785 in Ireland, and Anne McClonky c1780 in Ireland

So, George was 4 years old when he fathered Henry??!

There is a “c” to indicate circa ie approx or did you choose to ignore them?

The dates could be just a guess that the person whose tree I used as a source had inserted as dates & not changed them, they are of course hints only.

Most Ancestry trees do not have parents for Henry

There are also quite a few Henry Hitchens/Hutchen and permutations returned n Ancestry.

[Neale1961]

I would advise against copying from someone's tree, especially where there are obvious basic mistakes.

[garstonite]

http://www.rootspoint.com/record/1851-UK-Census/Henry-Hitchens-1789-Knowsley-Lancashire-Leftwich/25d210db-adff-4e47-9a87-0a3b517e1b24