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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 March 20 14:07 BST (UK) »
There are a couple of military records for Pilkingtons from Kiltormer, Galway (quite a long way from Rahoon), both Williams, one born circa 1812, the other 1838.
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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 March 20 14:11 BST (UK) »
There are certainly Pinkerton's in the north!

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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 March 20 14:15 BST (UK) »
There are certainly Pinkerton's in the north!

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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 March 20 14:54 BST (UK) »
Scottish origin hallmark, I believe the detective agency Pinkerton's were from Glasgow.  ;D

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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #13 on: Friday 17 April 20 01:12 BST (UK) »
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Martha could not read or write so "Pilkerton" is presumably how she pronounced her name.

This is one of the most useful things I've read for a long time, thank you. A real 'aha!' moment for me! I always notice whether somebody signs the document themselves or if they merely 'make their mark'. I often pause for a moment of contemplation about their literacy and background, particularly when compared to their contemporaries (if only one partner in a marriage can write, for example), but the wider effects of that haven't ever occurred to me. Of course messages could only be verbal, and that's likely to lose a lot in translation.

My other half is shamefully bad at accents, but delights in doing them. I had a moment of leniency and asked for an attempt at pronouncing 'Pilkerton' in an Irish accent. Needless to say, I will never ask such a thing again!
BINGHAM - Stamford & Peterborough
COZENS - Marylebone from Dorset via Norfolk (Blofield)
GUNNINGHAM - West Somerset (Williton / Lydeard / Stogumber) & Bristol (Bedminster)
HAYWARD - Fordingbridge
LEGG - Bournemouth
MEDLAND - moved from Newton Abbot in Devon to Hampreston in Dorset
STEELE - Bournemouth & Poole
TUCKER - North Dorset (Cheselbourne / Hilton / Lydlinch)

Also my partner's most frustrating brick wall - Alexander McDOUGALL of Knightsbridge / Kensington (1820 - 1856) and his son, James

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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #14 on: Friday 17 April 20 01:14 BST (UK) »
I know your years etc won't show her Birth, etc but just to show not too many of them to be found!!

No, I understand - you'd certainly expect to find at least a handful more =/
BINGHAM - Stamford & Peterborough
COZENS - Marylebone from Dorset via Norfolk (Blofield)
GUNNINGHAM - West Somerset (Williton / Lydeard / Stogumber) & Bristol (Bedminster)
HAYWARD - Fordingbridge
LEGG - Bournemouth
MEDLAND - moved from Newton Abbot in Devon to Hampreston in Dorset
STEELE - Bournemouth & Poole
TUCKER - North Dorset (Cheselbourne / Hilton / Lydlinch)

Also my partner's most frustrating brick wall - Alexander McDOUGALL of Knightsbridge / Kensington (1820 - 1856) and his son, James

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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #15 on: Friday 17 April 20 01:23 BST (UK) »
The only Church of Ireland registers for Rahoon are burials in 1864, all others were lost in 1922.

Well, that's rubbish =[ Thank you for the heads-up though.

I had been poring over scans of the Catholic Parish Registers for Rahoon on the National Library of Ireland website, but I must have been kidding myself if I ever thought I'd find anything - I can barely read a thing!

I know the absolute minimum that can be known about Ireland, and indeed the prevalence of major religions at the individual or small town level. I guess I'd be pretty lucky if the name did pop up in the Catholic registers, since that's only one possible church there. And of course I'm not even fully convinced she was from Rahoon anyway, given her answer for 'place of birth' changed quite drastically with every census!
BINGHAM - Stamford & Peterborough
COZENS - Marylebone from Dorset via Norfolk (Blofield)
GUNNINGHAM - West Somerset (Williton / Lydeard / Stogumber) & Bristol (Bedminster)
HAYWARD - Fordingbridge
LEGG - Bournemouth
MEDLAND - moved from Newton Abbot in Devon to Hampreston in Dorset
STEELE - Bournemouth & Poole
TUCKER - North Dorset (Cheselbourne / Hilton / Lydlinch)

Also my partner's most frustrating brick wall - Alexander McDOUGALL of Knightsbridge / Kensington (1820 - 1856) and his son, James

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Re: Martha - possibly PILKERTON, possibly Irish. Married James CHAMBERS, Cambs, 1851
« Reply #16 on: Friday 17 April 20 01:25 BST (UK) »
Pilkington locations in Griffith's Valuation (none near Rahoon from what I can see)

Thank you for this, I didn't know such a resource existed =]
BINGHAM - Stamford & Peterborough
COZENS - Marylebone from Dorset via Norfolk (Blofield)
GUNNINGHAM - West Somerset (Williton / Lydeard / Stogumber) & Bristol (Bedminster)
HAYWARD - Fordingbridge
LEGG - Bournemouth
MEDLAND - moved from Newton Abbot in Devon to Hampreston in Dorset
STEELE - Bournemouth & Poole
TUCKER - North Dorset (Cheselbourne / Hilton / Lydlinch)

Also my partner's most frustrating brick wall - Alexander McDOUGALL of Knightsbridge / Kensington (1820 - 1856) and his son, James