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Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« on: Wednesday 01 April 20 13:50 BST (UK) »
In researching ancestors from Wexford Town, I consulted the Valuation Office Books index at the NAI where I found reference to two separate townlands:  Townparks in the civil parish of St Selskar and Wexford Town Parks in the civil parish of St John. However, maps found at www.townlands.ie, show  the civil parish of St. Selskars as being adjacent to but not part of Townparks. As well, townlands.ie states, "There are 2 townlands that we know about in Saint John's" --  both named Townparks.

Can anyone clarify?

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Re: Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 14:55 BST (UK) »
IreAtlas Townland gives 3 Townparks in Co. Wexford
St. John's
St. Michael's of Feagh
St. Peters
Griffith's Valuation gives the same
Valuation Books have the above plus St Mary's, St Doologues, St. Selskar and St. Michael's

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Re: Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 15:22 BST (UK) »
It wasn't GeoHive that wasn't loading it was Edge not letting it load, can see it on Firefox,
Still a bit confusing, the oldest map show one Townparks marked just beside (East of) St Johns
The middle map shows Townparks in St.Johns and the one to the East marked as Townparks part of St.Peters.
The modern map shows the one in St.John's and another north of that near the water in St. Selskar.

Edited to say in St Selskar rather than appears to be in, comparing maps think that is correct.

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Re: Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 15:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Hallmark. I still find the information that I found to be confusing if not downright contradictory.

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Re: Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 16:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Sinann. I looked at Geohive but couldn't see Townparks when I looked at the 1837 6" map and a search for it turned up no results. It is very confusing, I suppose in part because "townparks" seems to be such a generic name. I still don't understand the apparent contradiction between the information provided in the VOB and townlands.ie.

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Re: Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 17:18 BST (UK) »
The S on the left is the end of St. John's

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Re: Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 17:25 BST (UK) »
I would speculate that these Townparks were originally green areas just outside the town walls that's why there seems to be so many in the earlier records. Maybe one near each town gate.
http://buildingsofwexford.com/town-wall/

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Re: Wexford Town Parks vs Townparks townlands
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 18:11 BST (UK) »
I would speculate that these Townparks were originally green areas just outside the town walls that's why there seems to be so many in the earlier records. Maybe one near each town gate.
http://buildingsofwexford.com/town-wall/

Yes. In Irish land use, a townpark or town park “was a small holding near a town and farmed by someone resident in the town." (Wikipedia, “Townpark.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townpark) Leases were generally short-term and rents in town parks were typically higher than those paid by full-time resident farmers.