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1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« on: Wednesday 01 April 20 16:34 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Please does anyone have details for this marriage?

1851  Dec 25  at St Mary, Aylesbury
William Hawkins and Maria Langston

The bit of info I would really like is the father of William Hawkins.

thank you,

Lisa

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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 April 20 17:13 BST (UK) »
There is a baptism in St Marys, 1820, of a William Hawkins, father, William & mother, Ann

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5V7-K61

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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 April 20 17:14 BST (UK) »
From BucksFHS -  St Mary's Aylesbury Transcripts CD.

Marriage 25 Dec 1851.

William X HAWKINS of full age, Bachelor of Aylesbury, Boatman son of Joseph Hawkins, Boatman
Maria X LANGSTON of full age, Spinster of Aylesbury daughter of Charles Langston, Labourer

Witnesses -  George(x)Langston & Elizabeth(x)White


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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 April 20 17:55 BST (UK) »
From BucksFHS -  St Mary's Aylesbury Transcripts CD.

Marriage 25 Dec 1851.

William X HAWKINS of full age, Bachelor of Aylesbury, Boatman son of Joseph Hawkins, Boatman
Maria X LANGSTON of full age, Spinster of Aylesbury daughter of Charles Langston, Labourer

Witnesses -  George(x)Langston & Elizabeth(x)White


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many thanks Steve, that's wonderful, thank you.

Lisa


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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 April 20 18:00 BST (UK) »
Was William Hawkins born c1821, Tring, Hertfordshire.

If so, Maria Langston was born c1827, (Marsh), Great Kimble, Bucks.

Same source; Burial - 19 Jun 1873. William HAWKINS aged 52 of Walton, Aylesbury


Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
Acknowledgemets to http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/  and  http://www.ofhs.org.uk/

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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 April 20 18:19 BST (UK) »
From BucksFHS - Walton Church(Aylesbury). Transcripts CD.

Baptisms.

12 Sep 1858.  Kate, child of William & Maria HAWKINS of Walton, Labourer
11 Mar 1860.  William George, child of William & Maria HAWKINS of Walton, Labourer
14 Sep 1862.  Ann Maria, child of William & Maria HAWKINS of Walton, Labourer
17 Nov 1864.  Joseph Charles, child of William & Maria HAWKINS of Walton, Labourer, private baptism, since brought to Church.


Steve. :)
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
Acknowledgemets to http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/  and  http://www.ofhs.org.uk/

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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 20 10:37 BST (UK) »
Was William Hawkins born c1821, Tring, Hertfordshire.

If so, Maria Langston was born c1827, (Marsh), Great Kimble, Bucks.

Same source; Burial - 19 Jun 1873. William HAWKINS aged 52 of Walton, Aylesbury


Steve. :)

Thanks Steve,

Yes, c1821 Tring is the date as calculated from the census and death age, however the baptism at Tring is Dec 25, 1833.  The church register doesn't make any note (or have a dob) if William is an infant or older, but the father, Joseph is a boatman.
So it is possible that he is 'older' at the time of his baptism or maybe he adjusted his age to be older than Maria.

Hence you can see why the name of the father on the marriage cert is a big help.

Thanks again,  best,

Lisa

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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 April 20 13:32 BST (UK) »
Baptisms have never been a date of birth as so many assume in many trees I've seen. But from my experience baptisms occur even as an adult.

I have had many children baptised on the same day, no matter what their ages are.(A block booking, if you will).
In one instance a wife has been baptised long after her marriage, as 'wife of ??', and also my Gt Gt Aunty was baptised a week before her marriage at the age of 22.

I may suggest that you look for siblings of William Hawkins/Hawkings in Tring, then see if the ages match or not in the Census returns.  Or at least in a time frame that is reasonably close to William's 'discrepancy' for his y.o.b and baptism..

The death cert or burial is a better indicator of the correct age, but even that could be rounded up or down a year or two, sometimes 3 years.  It all depends who gives the information. 
I would think that Williams wife Maria, as she survived him, or child gave the information to the registrar for his death so may possibly be more accurate.

Sometimes an age at death is different from burial age, again it's who gives the information.

If it's some poor old soul who's so old, that he's outlived most of his neighbours of his generation, then it's usually a best guess by those that knew them.  Luckily for you William Hawkins had family surviving him. ;D

Your William was living in Walton, Aylesbury, which is very close to the Canal.  Baptisms give his occupation as a labourer, even though in census returns he was Boatman.  That's no big deal in it's self.
Aylesbury Canal was a branch of the Grand Union Canal, which i believe passes Tring quite closely, hence, ending up in Aylesbury.

Steve. :)

Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
Acknowledgemets to http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/  and  http://www.ofhs.org.uk/

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Re: 1851 Marriage William Hawkins Maria Langston
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 April 20 16:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Steve,

I'm not familiar with the geography of Buckinghamshire, nor the 'route' of the canal, so I've been looking at maps as I go along. 

Lisa