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A coat of arm with year 1570
« on: Sunday 05 April 20 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am looking for help on this strange coat of arms, I have never seen such arm with number on it! But it is from a antique tapestry


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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 April 20 19:18 BST (UK) »
Is there any name or place associated with this? 
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 April 20 19:35 BST (UK) »
Sorry but no name associated with it

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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 April 20 19:44 BST (UK) »
You may like to consider contacting the Heraldry Society.

Please address offers, enquiries and comments to the Image Librarian at: archive@theheraldrysociety.com

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Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 April 20 20:51 BST (UK) »
The arms include the colour green - very rare in English heraldry!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 April 20 07:47 BST (UK) »
Could that be a Bishop's Mitre above the shield?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 April 20 07:57 BST (UK) »
That is a really good guess!

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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 April 20 12:00 BST (UK) »
These look like family crests rather than Coats of Arms.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: A coat of arm with year 1570
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 April 20 12:10 BST (UK) »
I think the arms on the left as you look at it are those of someone belonged to the Bek / de Beke / Beake / Becke family - there are many variations on the name.

This family produced several Bishops - I agree it is definitely a Bishop's mitre above. I am struggling to make out the two things on the right of these arms (the left hand side) - they could be annulets? If so Papworth's Ordinary has nothing about them.

On the right (the arms with the green background) I'm not sure what the black splodge is ... so haven't got far looking it up yet!

The little hand in the corner is a "hand of Ulster" and denotes the bearer was a Baronet.

The puzzling thing is a Bishop would usually impale (to put arms side by side in one shield) his arms with those of his Diocese. So, although I have no evidence to support my theory I think it is possible the arms shown are those borne by the people being commemorated but there has been some artistic licence. (Eg by adding the date and by showing the bearer was a Bishop, but leaving out the arms of his Diocese. Maybe even adding things like the two "annulets".)

Liz

PS They are definitely arms - the crest is the bit that sits on top of the shield.
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