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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 08:39 BST (UK) »
A map for you - you can see the relevant places - just to the right of the pointer

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pae/

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Ben 1822 - residence Wibsey  Baptised Delph
George Thomas 1832 - residence Bowk House baptised Cherry Clough
Martha 1835 - Bowk House baptised Cherry Clough


Cherry Clough is to the left of the market.
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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 09:00 BST (UK) »
If I have the right family in 1851 229/ 149/1

There is a grandchild, Martha Ann Schofield - whose daughter is she?
I think the age might be wrongly transcribed.
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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 09:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for the map which expands so clearly. I purchased a pdf of a 1924 map of Saddleworth last week which covers the area my ancestors lived in but it isn't as clear as the one you posted. The Ben Buckley at Wibsey isn't my family but the Martha Ann you found is. She is the daughter of Ben and Ann Buckley's daughter Ann who married John Schofield in 1846. Ben and Ann ran the Temple and Bowling Green pub in Waterhead. I have tried to find documents which might relate to his licensee tenure, hoping it might have an exact date of birth, but I can't find anything online. I'm born and bred in Oldham but now live in New Zealand so it's quite hard to access information like pub tenures, if they even exist. 

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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 09:50 BST (UK) »
If you are from Oldham, you will understand the confusions with Buckley.
I have just been looking at a published tree re the family.

I am confused though re your saying Ben at Wibsey isn’t your family.

The baptism shows Ben Buckley son of Ben Buckley of Wibsey near Junction, Clothier and Ann,  his wife, daughter of George and .....Malladue.
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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 10:04 BST (UK) »
Apologies - you are absolutely right. It is my Ben. I didn't recognise the area Wibsey. The only information I had for Ben was scant, for Delph Wesleyan with a birth and a Christening date but no place of abode, so what you have found is really helpful. Some of the other children were baptised at Cherry Clough Wesleyan and were listed as born at Bowkhouse, which is only a stones throw away from Wibsey on the map you sent.  Thanks once again.

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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 10:09 BST (UK) »
Oh, that’s good news  :)

There is another Ben and Ann Buckley, Cloth Dresser in Delph and I thought there might be some confusion.
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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:17 BST (UK) »
I forgot to mention that you can see Wibsey Cottages on street view. 
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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 14:10 BST (UK) »
According to Freereg, lots of Buckley's born in Saddleworth, however only 4 Benjamin/Ben baptised between 1790 and 1800 and one of those, a twin died.  I noticed your ancestor always uses the name Ben, rather than Benjamin and the only one baptised as Ben is the one that you thought was the most likely candidate, son of James and Ann. 
My grandfather was always known as Tom and we assumed his name was Thomas, but he'd actually been christened Tom.
Another thing to suggest is that Joseph Buckley was some relative but not necessarily a brother or father.  As I mentioned, Buckley was a very common name.
And lastly, I noticed his son was called Jerry.  I wonder where that name came from. Is there a Jeremiah in the family anywhere?
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Re: Parents of Ben Buckley, born 1793, Saddleworth
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 08 April 20 14:20 BST (UK) »
I was intrigued by Jerry. There are a few records for that  name including an old and a young one (different families) at Cotemans and Coteman Heights where there are Buckleys in abundance in 1841 1279/3
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